Smok M80 Temperature Mode Help

[Ripshod]

In that review you linked the guy states that the mod is fine with kanthal robby, so I assume no ramp up in wattage mode??

If peeps are firing kanthal in temp mode that may be compounding the issue, or even causing damage (an assumption).

I admit now this is so frustrating. Not having one in front of me to test I can only go on the info provided by others. 

[robby]

Feb 23, 2015 11:28:25 GMT Ripshod said:

In that review you linked the guy states that the mod is fine with kanthal robby, so I assume no ramp up in wattage mode??

If peeps are firing kanthal in temp mode that may be compounding the issue, or even causing damage (an assumption).

I admit now this is so frustrating. Not having one in front of me to test I can only go on the info provided by others. 

I think it their temp determining method that is crap. I cant believe they actually tried it and considered it acceptable. Maybe it has been a bad batch of chips but I still cant see them not finding it with even basic QC.

[Ripshod]

Smok DO seem to be having batch issues with other products, so maybe the same issue here. My M65 is fine and dandy whilst others are having issues.

I'm actually considering buying an M80 now for testing, once China re-opens. Even if it's faulty it'll still be a good mod.

[richo71]

Hi again robby & Ripshod and other members the mod is perfectly fine in wattage and mech mode no ramp up time it fires straight away even from sleep, it is just the own goal of the temp control which does not allow the user to vape properly due to this ramp up time whatever wattage or temp the user sets also have a look at the last post and the comments and replies within from angelfiremods fb page, i am not to sure about what or why they are asking this www.facebook.com/angelfiremods

[Ripshod]

I think they're just investigating a 'rumour' richo71. Yep the mod will fire kanthal in Temp mode with no actual control, I believe they're thinking it shouldn't?

Why would Smok release an ni200 atty specifically for a mod it wouldn't work on?

The resistance change in kanthal makes it unrealistic for temp control.

[richo71]

Feb 23, 2015 11:40:49 GMT Ripshod said:

I think they're just investigating a 'rumour' richo71. Yep the mod will fire kanthal in Temp mode with no actual control, I believe they're thinking it shouldn't?

Why would Smok release an ni200 atty specifically for a mod it wouldn't work on?

The resistance change in kanthal makes it unrealistic for temp control.

I am using the GTC ni200 as i quote and it works with the M80 but it is this ridiculous ramp up, after the first couple of fires the ramp up is reduced very slightly due to the resistance change as the coil is hotter, does this sound right, (hope i have explained it well enough)

[robby]

I`ve posted on Angelfire mods richo71, I think there may be a couple of "wishful thinkers" there.

What you say above sounds right, it may well just be programming, but how they missed it is just beyond belief.

[Ripshod]

It's always possible that the software works by 'learning' a coil, but why would they go that way when evolv have it nailed straight away. This is just one huge mistake by smok.

If it works it just works, if it doesn't it fails!!

Out of interest could anyone scan the manual and upload as jpegs?

[richo71]

Feb 23, 2015 11:51:17 GMT robby said:

I`ve posted on Angelfire mods richo71, I think there may be a couple of "wishful thinkers" there.

What you say above sounds right, it may well just be programming, but how they missed it is just beyond belief.

Yeah thats what i thought, especially as they are quoting on using temp mode for kanthal 

[robby]

Feb 23, 2015 11:55:30 GMT richo71 said:

Feb 23, 2015 11:51:17 GMT robby said:

I`ve posted on Angelfire mods richo71, I think there may be a couple of "wishful thinkers" there.

What you say above sounds right, it may well just be programming, but how they missed it is just beyond belief.

Yeah thats what i thought, especially as they are quoting on using temp mode for kanthal 

I have a feeling that just because they sell them they can say what they like about them, but it really looks like they dont have a clue what they are talking about richo71

[Bobsbeer]

There seems to be a lot of confusion with this mod. It's interesting reading. Question for those that have used one. Does it give a temperature readin when usin Kanthal? Or does it display something else? The reason I ask is that I have a Hana Modz clone with supposed TC. Although I don't seem able to switch between modes, it too displays a temp reading with Kanthal. Whether the reading is accurate I don't know. I somehow doubt it, but I don't know how they are deriving the temperature.

[robby]

Feb 23, 2015 12:17:06 GMT Bobsbeer said:

There seems to be a lot of confusion with this mod. It's interesting reading. Question for those that have used one. Does it give a temperature readin when usin Kanthal? Or does it display something else? The reason I ask is that I have a Hana Modz clone with supposed TC. Although I don't seem able to switch between modes, it too displays a temp reading with Kanthal. Whether the reading is accurate I don't know. I somehow doubt it, but I don't know how they are deriving the temperature.

Does it revert to normal mode automatically after a few vapes Bobsbeer? My vaporflask clone does.

[Get Off My Cloud]

Feb 23, 2015 12:17:06 GMT Bobsbeer said:

There seems to be a lot of confusion with this mod. It's interesting reading. Question for those that have used one. Does it give a temperature readin when usin Kanthal? Or does it display something else? The reason I ask is that I have a Hana Modz clone with supposed TC. Although I don't seem able to switch between modes, it too displays a temp reading with Kanthal. Whether the reading is accurate I don't know. I somehow doubt it, but I don't know how they are deriving the temperature.

Where did you get your clone from?
I've had 2 from 3fvape the temp sensing switched off on both just fine.
The first one went skitzo in temp mode and i fried the chip i've had @windows replace it with an evolv chip.
But in Kanthal regular mode it worked fine, only went nuts when i tried a Nickel build on it, the temp display would only show 110f and the temp control message wouldn't kick in no matter how many watts i pumped into it or for how long.
Are you locking the device first before holding the up and down buttons together?
I wouldn't trust the temp sensing on these clone chips but the regular mode works fine.
Got a couple more on order from Cigabuy will see if they have the same chip.

[Bobsbeer]

I don't know robby. I can't seem to change mode, so it's working as it came out of the box. I have tried holding down both up/down buttons and nothing happens. The instructions are not worth the paper they are written on. Clearly a fault or it works in some other way to the Evolve board.

[robby]

Feb 23, 2015 12:28:08 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Feb 23, 2015 12:17:06 GMT Bobsbeer said:

There seems to be a lot of confusion with this mod. It's interesting reading. Question for those that have used one. Does it give a temperature readin when usin Kanthal? Or does it display something else? The reason I ask is that I have a Hana Modz clone with supposed TC. Although I don't seem able to switch between modes, it too displays a temp reading with Kanthal. Whether the reading is accurate I don't know. I somehow doubt it, but I don't know how they are deriving the temperature.

Where did you get your clone from?
I've had 2 from 3fvape the temp sensing switched off on both just fine.
The first one went skitzo in temp mode and i fried the chip i've had @windows replace it with an evolv chip.
But in Kanthal regular mode it worked fine, only went nuts when i tried a Nickel build on it, the temp display would only show 110f and the temp control message wouldn't kick in no matter how many watts i pumped into it or for how long.
Are you locking the device first before holding the up and down buttons together?
I wouldn't trust the temp sensing on these clone chips but the regular mode works fine.
Got a couple more on order from Cigabuy will see if they have the same chip.

I dont suppose you have a pic of that board do you Get Off My Cloud? I have a cigabuy chip here