Rewicking

[happyloman]

Before I ask about this I should just say I do have slight arthritis and rubbish eyesight

In regard to rewicking, there seems to be some who feel the bigger the better and others who think it shouldnt be too big.

The problem for me is that I cant figure out how people are getting such big fluffy "ears" on either side, Im having to roll and roll the cotton in order to thread it through the coil, this results in a kind of miserable pointy thing on either side, trying to fluff up afterwards has no effect.
Ive watched a few videos but Im still not sure what Im doing wrong.

Ive started using koh gen do cotton, but still have the same problems.

The other thing Ive not seen mentioned anywhere is actually putting some juice on the cotton, before putting through the coil, Ive found this helps roll it into a narrow enough "tube" type shape for getting it through, but obviously this leads to the same pointy ends on either side of the coil. Is this the reason people dont recommend putting juice on pre-wicking or does it cause problems for the coils too?

I was thinking about building my own coils, as I could make the coil diameter wider than on the unicoil or kanger originals and therefore easier to wick. Ive found some formulas about the diameter and the volts etc but nothing that clearly states what are the advantages or disadvantages of having a wider coil. Im obviously just looking to make it easier to thread the cotton through, nothing else. (I dont sub:D )
Im just not sure if widening the coil has a negative effect on performance etc?

thanks for any help offered

[phtumshk]

Some 1 mentioned elsewhere on here about them needle threaders, sounds like a good idea to help pull the cotton through..

[Greg]

If you want fluffy ears just use a longer piece of cotton be it ordinary or jap then the end you twist tight to get through your coil, keep pulling then chop the scrunched up bit off. Result - two fluffy ears

[Get Off My Cloud]

Sounds like you may be trying to get too much cotton through the coil.
You don't want the cotton to be compact or tight in the coil because that will constrict the flow of the juice through the cotton.
You want just enough so it will fill the inner diameter of the coil when dry, it will swell when wet anyway and tighten a little bit by itself.
Try with a little less cotton.

[happyloman]

Feb 28, 2015 19:48:42 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Sounds like you may be trying to get too much cotton through the coil.
You don't want the cotton to be compact or tight in the coil because that will constrict the flow of the juice through the cotton.
You want just enough so it will fill the inner diameter of the coil when dry, it will swell when wet anyway and tighten a little bit by itself.
Try with a little less cotton.

See I was thinking that soaking the cotton in a little juice would make it easier to flatten down. But yeah it did blow up when I tried
What about the idea of making a larger coil diameter, would that just use up more battery power for the same volt setting, or would there be other issues?

Ive also read people are tearing off the "front and back" parts of their Ko Gen Doh cotton, which I hadnt been doing, so I can see how that attributes to it being too thick too, its just I find tearing off either side reduces whats left to a fuzzy mess

[Get Off My Cloud]

Mar 3, 2015 9:54:31 GMT happyloman said:

Feb 28, 2015 19:48:42 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Sounds like you may be trying to get too much cotton through the coil.
You don't want the cotton to be compact or tight in the coil because that will constrict the flow of the juice through the cotton.
You want just enough so it will fill the inner diameter of the coil when dry, it will swell when wet anyway and tighten a little bit by itself.
Try with a little less cotton.

See I was thinking that soaking the cotton in a little juice would make it easier to flatten down. But yeah it did blow up when I tried
What about the idea of making a larger coil diameter, would that just use up more battery power for the same volt setting, or would there be other issues?

Ive also read people are tearing off the "front and back" parts of their Ko Gen Doh cotton, which I hadnt been doing, so I can see how that attributes to it being too thick too, its just I find tearing off either side reduces whats left to a fuzzy mess

You won't get a larger coil in a protank head, the only way you're going to get more wire in contact with the wick in that small space is to make a microcoil rather than a regular spaced coil.

[rednec83]

The cotton your using is it the jap matting square pad like Things?
I found out there is a right and wrong way.
Ie it will stretch one way but not the other.
I'll try explain a little better,
hold the square and ever so gently pull it one way then the other (left and right then up and down )
you will want it to stretch side to side when you roll your point not stretch the length.
But it sounds like your using a little to much. Cut it slimmer

Hope all that makes sence

[igual]

Have you had a look at the guide I did?
Definitely sounds like your useing to much cotton.
You want 1 pad teased in half and then a 3-4 mm slice is all u need.
Trim off both ends and sorted.
allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/48380/kanger-protank-recoil-microcoil-guide?page=1&scrollTo=846323

[happyloman]

Mar 3, 2015 20:13:25 GMT igual said:

Have you had a look at the guide I did?
Definitely sounds like your useing to much cotton.
You want 1 pad teased in half and then a 3-4 mm slice is all u need.
Trim off both ends and sorted.
allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/48380/kanger-protank-recoil-microcoil-guide?page=1&scrollTo=846323

Sorry its gone a bit of track
I dont have any coiling equipment at the moment, Ive only just started rewicking with unicoils. The other coils I have are the original Kangers ones, that I am finding more difficult to rewick than the unicoils.

Ive got this KoGenDoh cotton, like rednec mentioned.
Ive just been cutting along the side of the square, going with the grain, maybe about 0.4cm in width and find i get 2 wicks from each strip I cut off, though I do cut quite a bit off on either end of each wick.

Hoping that made sense

Im put off the idea of coiling as it used to involve a blow torch, but i saw some videos where it was simply putting wires into holes and screwing down, Ive got shaky hands though so its all a pain, if Kanger hadnt brought out these new coils they would still have a customer, the new ones I stuck with for most of the last 6 months, but they are randomly sh!te.

Do appreciate the help, sorry Im not explaining well enough.

[igual]

If you want I'll happily recoil you some of your kanger heads with micrcoils for you.
If you just rewicking the stock coil in them then its not surprising your having issues.

The unicoil from virtual vape is a microcoil.

[smifee]

I had problems judging the amount of cotton wool when I first started rewicking Nature Vape heads.

My solution was to find a cotton tape the right size so I didn't have to guess how much to use. 1/4" (6mm) is just right for a 2mm dia coil. I was given a roll of 250 metres of it. The only downside is that I have to boil it 3 times to remove the 'dressing' they treat it with.

Now I use the 2mm Kuro coiler my blowtorch is redundant.

I didn't think I'd ever use any other wicking but a recent tank purchase came with jap cotton pads. Read up on tips on how to use it. Splitting the pad in two and cutting what seems like ridiculously small strips works really well.

I haven't found any improvement in flavour but if a tank gets 'gurgly' with a particular juice I change to the jap cotton and the gurgling stops.

[rednec83]

Maybe try a standard old fashioned cotton wool ball. That's what I prefer to use in coil heads

[happyloman]

Just been reading this wee article about different cottons

onvaping.com/atomizer-wicks-going-beyond-cotton/?utm_source=onVaping+Blog+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f28fb2fce3-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e6b044869b-f28fb2fce3-351778165