Tax on ejuice

[GunJack]

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www.ukflavours.com/57-nicotine

click either, then use the drop-down for the different sizes & prices

[kittyvape]

Apr 23, 2015 12:48:30 GMT GunJack said:

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www.ukflavours.com/57-nicotine

click either, then use the drop-down for the different sizes & prices

kittyvape checkin' in   Thank you very much, GunJack! 

[GunJack]

Apr 23, 2015 13:06:24 GMT kittyvape said:

Apr 23, 2015 12:48:30 GMT GunJack said:

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www.ukflavours.com/57-nicotine

click either, then use the drop-down for the different sizes & prices

kittyvape checkin' in   Thank you very much, GunJack! 

no probs

[igual]

Everything liquid is anouther good supplier for nic base.
everythingliquid.co.uk

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Apr 23, 2015 17:01:11 GMT igual said:

Everything liquid is anouther good supplier for nic base.
everythingliquid.co.uk

They were my original source for Nic base, but i changed to UK Flavours after Everything Liquid switched to UPS as they wanted £25 to deliver to the Highlands, Christ i could nearly fly myself to London via Easy Jet if i picked the right day for the same each way.

[*-SARIN-*]

It won't be solely nicotine that gets taxed otherwise NRT will have to be taxed as well, it will be "e-liquid", ready made bottles that contain a liquid ready to vape. I'm not expecting nicotine base to be taxed at all. Think about it, tobacco leaf isn't taxed and that also isn't ready to smoke, you have to prepare it first.

[Bluefish]

Apr 23, 2015 8:32:59 GMT DiscoDes said:

It's a common misconception that Nicotine is highly addictive.

Otherwise NRT would work.

See HERE

Every ex smoker knows des that it's not the nic we are/were addicted to but the habit/ the motion of smoking, that's why vaping has taken off as it mimicks, and that's not a word i use every day so I'll say it again mimicks lol the action of smoking.

But if it ever got anywhere near £10 for ten ml then i'd probably go back on the fags.

[*-SARIN-*]

This is an important sentence in that report:

"It is probably not difficult to make some compounds dependence-forming if another 5,300 compounds can be added, especially ones specifically designed to boost the dependency potential."

Such as aniseed, menthol, liquorice, chocolate, caffeine and many other "normal" ingredients. Menthol cigarettes are to be banned in the near future due to the fact that the menthol massively decreases the breakdown rate of nicotine in the body and increases dependence of the tobacco as a whole.

What the report doesn't mention is the fact that nicotine is only one of 47 alkaloids in tobacco, all of which are of similar structure and could therefore play a major part when the additional chemicals are present. Have these other alkaloids been tested for their addictive properties - NOPE.

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Apr 23, 2015 22:10:02 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

This is an important sentence in that report:

What the report doesn't mention is the fact that nicotine is only one of 47 alkaloids in tobacco, all of which are of similar structure and could therefore play a major part when the additional chemicals are present. Have these other alkaloids been tested for their addictive properties - NOPE.

And that unfortunately will have no influence when the politicians are making all the decisions on our vaping future. They have failed so far to acknowledge any logical reason for vaping, they only want to believe in the aspects that suit them and fill the void in the their coffers that has been left by the failure of vapers to purchase tobacco over the counter.

[*-SARIN-*]

Apr 23, 2015 22:41:40 GMT striker42 said:

Apr 23, 2015 22:10:02 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

This is an important sentence in that report:

What the report doesn't mention is the fact that nicotine is only one of 47 alkaloids in tobacco, all of which are of similar structure and could therefore play a major part when the additional chemicals are present. Have these other alkaloids been tested for their addictive properties - NOPE.

And that unfortunately will have no influence when the politicians are making all the decisions on our vaping future. They have failed so far to acknowledge any logical reason for vaping, they only want to believe in the aspects that suit them and fill the void in the their coffers that has been left by the failure of vapers to purchase tobacco over the counter.

Yep agree with that mate.

[igual]

Maybe its time to apply for class 2 poisons licence just in case.

I admit *-SARIN-* I did not know about tax difference between normal over counter and whole leaf tobacco.

One other thing that concerns us as Diy stockpilers is the concentrates we use, how will the availability of them be effected.

Its those that still smoke andbwknt get a chance that we have had I feel sorry for.

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Maybe ejuice concentrates could be re labeled as food flavouring come next year igual. Maybe if some vendors could give us an opinion on this it might help. But then again, they could be just about in the dark as much as the rest of us as to what the reality is going to be.

[ceedee]

Apr 23, 2015 21:03:05 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

It won't be solely nicotine that gets taxed otherwise NRT will have to be taxed as well, it will be "e-liquid", ready made bottles that contain a liquid ready to vape. I'm not expecting nicotine base to be taxed at all. Think about it, tobacco leaf isn't taxed and that also isn't ready to smoke, you have to prepare it first.

I see where you're coming from but suspect you're missing the impracticalities.

Put a duty on e-liquid and HM Revenue & Customs will have to try to register, police and collect the duty from thousands of small independent juice sellers (unless the TPD kills them all off), a decent number of which are likely to do all they can to circumvent the regulations.

But make it illegal to import, buy or sell nicotine above 20mg/ml without a 'poisons' licence and levy the duty on purchases made by those licence holders and you're dealing with probably less than a hundred legitimate juice manufacturers and wholesalers, who you've already got a lot of control over.

Yes, it would increase the cost of manufacturing NRT but the actual nicotine element is a tiny proportion of the price the NHS, let alone punters, pay.

[*-SARIN-*]

Apr 23, 2015 23:35:35 GMT ceedee said:

Apr 23, 2015 21:03:05 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

It won't be solely nicotine that gets taxed otherwise NRT will have to be taxed as well, it will be "e-liquid", ready made bottles that contain a liquid ready to vape. I'm not expecting nicotine base to be taxed at all. Think about it, tobacco leaf isn't taxed and that also isn't ready to smoke, you have to prepare it first.

I see where you're coming from but suspect you're missing the impracticalities.

Put a duty on e-liquid and HM Revenue & Customs will have to try to register, police and collect the duty from thousands of small independent juice sellers (unless the TPD kills them all off), a decent number of which are likely to do all they can to circumvent the regulations.

But make it illegal to import, buy or sell nicotine above 20mg/ml without a 'poisons' licence and levy the duty on purchases made by those licence holders and you're dealing with probably less than a hundred legitimate juice manufacturers and wholesalers, who you've already got a lot of control over.

Yes, it would increase the cost of manufacturing NRT but the actual nicotine element is a tiny proportion of the price the NHS, let alone punters, pay.

Hmmm, i didn't consider the above a certain mg/ml perspective.  We shall have to resort to plan b

[jeffc]

Hi Peeps.

Does the Nicotine base liquid Have to be stored VERTICALLY in the freezer, or can it be placed HORIZONTALLY.

New to long term storage, hence this ?