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Post by geordie_vaper on Jun 12, 2015 8:08:02 GMT
rip trippers just posted up what appears to be a dna200 board thats has temp limiting and 200 watts of power.
remember when brandon from evolv said he wasnt going to get into a watt race with china?
i have nothing against evolv, i though they rushed the dna40 out but the customer service was excellent, now a 200 watt chip.
i dont know to me this seems a very strage one. i wouldnt expect evolv to do it, from a 12 to 20 to 30 to 40 then 200, just dusnt seem like somthing they would do
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Post by decoy on Jun 12, 2015 8:15:29 GMT
i dont know if you want to be the leader then you gota go big the prob is how de funk are they going to power it hope its not a lipo pack
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Post by geordie_vaper on Jun 12, 2015 8:25:58 GMT
there is already a 200w temp control chip though haha
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Post by geordie_vaper on Jun 12, 2015 8:26:27 GMT
maybe they are trying to keep up
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Post by Get Off My Cloud on Jun 12, 2015 9:38:20 GMT
Thought Brandon was a bit shortsighted when he said that he had no plans to develop a high power board, sure it doesn't suit his personal tastes but it's a business at the end of the day and to make maximum profit you cater to the whole market unless you're some kind of extremely high priced niche product. Didn't take predictive paranormal powers to see the trend was heading toward low sub ohm clearos and RDA's designed for very low resistance builds which require a punch of power to work properly. Yes there's still a market for mouth to lung low power requirement stuff like kayfuns etc but when was the last time you saw a mass market clearo released that wasn't sub ohm? Maybe at the time they figured their prices were high enough to produce a decent enough profit but the problems they've had developing the DNA40 have eaten into their profits (how many DNA40 board versions are there now?) perhaps that's what has led to this change in direction they now feel they need to cater to a larger share of the market to make up for that.
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Post by geordie_vaper on Jun 12, 2015 18:18:14 GMT
think there is 4 version of the dna40 board, and apparently this is a 100% dead cert there will be a dna200
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 18:48:51 GMT
Do you ever think that in a few years time all new mods will be a minimum 200w ? The way the industry's going I'd not be surprised if a starter kit will become 40w. I'm not saying that's a bad thing
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Post by geordie_vaper on Jun 12, 2015 18:52:34 GMT
i think its a good option to have it there, that way it will appeal to more vapers meaning they should sell more units
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 19:23:12 GMT
I would have preferred 100w, not that I would ever go that high, I would think this is very likely to be Li- Po powered which in its self brings a whole new set of issues where safety is concerned, for example a dedicated Li po charger, incorporating balance charging as the cells need to be maintained at an equal state otherwise things can go wrong fast.
I can just imagine some guy having just started out and wants to blow clouds, jumping in not reading up on the safety side and Boom! As the battery vents, and believe you me, when they vent they really vent!
I only know as I flew R/C aircraft/ Heli's up until 2 yrs ago , they were all electric with the Helicopter running 2200 mah 3's packs ( Turnigy) from Hobbyking China
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Post by Get Off My Cloud on Jun 12, 2015 19:25:49 GMT
I would have preferred 100w, not that I would ever go that high, I would think this is very likely to be Li- Po powered which in its self brings a whole new set of issues where safety is concerned, for example a dedicated Li po charger, incorporating balance charging as the cells need to be maintained at an equal state otherwise things can go wrong fast. I can just imagine some guy having just started out and wants to blow clouds, jumping in not reading up on the safety side and Boom! As the battery vents, and believe you me, when they vent they really vent! I only know as I flew R/C aircraft/ Heli's up until 2 yrs ago , they were all electric with the Helicopter running 2200 mah 3's packs ( Turnigy) from Hobbyking China The SnowWolf is dual 18650 can't see why Evolv can't develop a board that uses dual parallel 18650's too.
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Post by *-SARIN-* on Jun 12, 2015 19:34:56 GMT
maybe they are trying to keep up This i reckon, there's plenty of mods between 40w and 150w already, there's a few at 200w but no point designing at anything less.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 19:51:27 GMT
I would have preferred 100w, not that I would ever go that high, I would think this is very likely to be Li- Po powered which in its self brings a whole new set of issues where safety is concerned, for example a dedicated Li po charger, incorporating balance charging as the cells need to be maintained at an equal state otherwise things can go wrong fast. I can just imagine some guy having just started out and wants to blow clouds, jumping in not reading up on the safety side and Boom! As the battery vents, and believe you me, when they vent they really vent! I only know as I flew R/C aircraft/ Heli's up until 2 yrs ago , they were all electric with the Helicopter running 2200 mah 3's packs ( Turnigy) from Hobbyking China The SnowWolf is dual 18650 can't see why Evolv can't develop a board that uses dual parallel 1860's too. Never realised that m8, maybe Evolv will, I was just more concerned about the path that we seem to be heading where higher and higher wattages are seen as the pinnacle of vaping. I don't have any concern for the knowledgable Vapers with Li po's as long as they will have ( hopefully) taken the time to understand the do's and do not's. But as you have said it's quite possibly duel 18650's
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Post by Get Off My Cloud on Jun 12, 2015 20:33:38 GMT
The SnowWolf is dual 18650 can't see why Evolv can't develop a board that uses dual parallel 1860's too. Never realised that m8, maybe Evolv will, I was just more concerned about the path that we seem to be heading where higher and higher wattages are seen as the pinnacle of vaping. I don't have any concern for the knowledgable Vapers with Li po's as long as they will have ( hopefully) taken the time to understand the do's and do not's. But as you have said it's quite possibly duel 18650's True enough but then from what i understand ego type batteries aren't safe chemistry either or cigalikes. I agree manufacturers should emphasize battery safety on boxes and in manuals more though but that isn't Evolvs concern they only make boards.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 22:28:48 GMT
From what I have read on the DNA FB forum it is indeed Li po batteries they are planning, and I am afraid there is a massive difference between a Li-on ego style battery, and a 3's Li poly, care has to be made to ensure you do not over discharge a Li- po, or over charge both will result in venting. Cells require to be in balance with each other.
Balance charging with a dedicated balance charger is a must! Plus just to add some fun, storage for any length of time longer than say a week and your looking at maintaining 3.7v per cell.
Don't get me wrong, for folk that know the risks they are a fantastic battery, just more prone to letting out the white smoke big style if miss treated.
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Post by Bluefish on Jun 12, 2015 22:44:01 GMT
How low an ohm coil would you need for 200 watts? they will be doing 1 ohm negative coils next
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