The Watt debate? Asolo/DNA200

[Bobsbeer]

I'm a bit puzzled for the need for 200 watts of power.  It seems that mods are getting bigger power wise all the time.  First I thought 20w was big then 30, then 50, then 80, then 150 and now 200w !!!!  Along with TC, these seem to be gathering momentum.  With the soon to be released DNA200 and the iJoy Asolo coming into shops at the moment.  I seem to remember a thread about the Asolo a while back.  I'm not sure if they are on the open market yet, but they seem to have a wide range of spec if they work.  But back to my question.  What atty or I should say coil needs 200 watts?  Am I missing something?  Do these mods power quad/octi coils (never seen one of those), or some configuration I'm unaware of?  Is there an advantage of having 200w of power at your disposal?  If things go the way they are going I will be lugging along a car battery in a shopping trolley vaping at 5kw  

[igual]

I bought the Sig 100+ a while bk and its my go to mod for drippers, normally run it about 50 -70w with drippers and 20-30w with tanks
However I made a silly coil the other day and it was happy at max 100w intact it could of gone alot further.
At these sort of watts its pretty much cloud central which is fun but not for me everyday.
I think some of the advantages of say a 150w mod yet only running at say 30w is increased battery power and the fact that the chip will not be under strain.
Also some of the other subohm tankscan suposid run at 80w ( I wouldn't but that's me )
With the TC mods I think these could be the future and with the power to back them up you can have one device that does everything , 150 w silly dripper mode for showing off to your homies, then chucking a kayfun on at 20w.

[monty]

I think probably people dripping at 200 Watts are using half a kilo of Kanthal and much of the 200 Watts is heating the coil rather than being 200 Watts of vaping power. But it's a free world.

[letsavit]

30watts on a dripper is about as high as I go...so I'm 170watts future proofed already...

[toots]

Jul 30, 2015 7:40:36 GMT Bobsbeer said:

  Is there an advantage of having 200w of power at your disposal?  If things go the way they are going I will be lugging along a car battery in a shopping trolley vaping at 5kw  

[baron]

You wait until you have to tow along a diesel generator behind you to power your 1kw mod that is strapped to your chest, with a Mini Nautilus......

But, my highest mod is the Smok M80, and like to power my sub ohm tanks with it (and the MVP3 Pro), so that there is plenty of power to spare, whereas running them on say the Mini Cloupor 30W it can get close to running the thing flat out.

[xs2man]

I have a Snowwolf 200w and have vaped a lot on my dual coil twisted ni200 build at around 100w. Works great. I guess if I was running it in quad coil mode, I could see myself pumping up to whatever it's max is in TC mode (I would guess that's where 200w comes into it).

[lee]

Jul 30, 2015 11:25:12 GMT xs2man said:

I have a Snowwolf 200w and have vaped a lot on my dual coil twisted ni200 build at around 100w. Works great. I guess if I was running it in quad coil mode, I could see myself pumping up to whatever it's max is in TC mode (I would guess that's where 200w comes into it).

You must be going through juice quicker than a fat kid at a cakeshop 

[Deleted]

I am also using a Snow Wolf and find where I was normally vaping at 22-28w, I am now happily vaping at 46-50w constantly. Mainly due to the device, but also the vast improvement in the tanks were using. The current weapons of choice are Smok VTC Pro, or Gimble, these attys just don't work well below 30w. Highest I have gone is 65 w.

[VapingBad]

Jul 30, 2015 7:40:36 GMT Bobsbeer said:

I'm a bit puzzled for the need for 200 watts of power.  It seems that mods are getting bigger power wise all the time.  First I thought 20w was big then 30, then 50, then 80, then 150 and now 200w !!!!  Along with TC, these seem to be gathering momentum.  With the soon to be released DNA200 and the iJoy Asolo coming into shops at the moment.  I seem to remember a thread about the Asolo a while back.  I'm not sure if they are on the open market yet, but they seem to have a wide range of spec if they work.  But back to my question.  What atty or I should say coil needs 200 watts?  Am I missing something?  Do these mods power quad/octi coils (never seen one of those), or some configuration I'm unaware of?  Is there an advantage of having 200w of power at your disposal?  If things go the way they are going I will be lugging along a car battery in a shopping trolley vaping at 5kw  

The DNA200 has been out for a few weeks.

The DNA temp limiting boards have a smart pre-heat feature that pushes more power to you coil for up to a second or when it gets to 100 F below your temp limit which is one of the features that really set them aside from the competition.  For me typically vaping at 36 W the 4 W boost is not much, but on the DNA200 I have that set to 120 W for upto 2 seconds, on the Velocity at 100 W I set it to 200 W for upto 2 seconds.  The result is almost instant satisfaction, and unlike mods with "profiles" because this is temp limited it never over does it on a warm coil.  The DNA200 has loads of other advanced features not on any other devices that I won't go into here.

Size wise there is hardly any difference for the DNA200, the Hana V200 is the same size as the Sigelei 75W just 2 mm taller, but using the high power the battery in that is a bit small and you would want to add about 20-30 mm case size to fit a big battery.

[xs2man]

Jul 30, 2015 11:45:15 GMT lee said:

Jul 30, 2015 11:25:12 GMT xs2man said:

I have a Snowwolf 200w and have vaped a lot on my dual coil twisted ni200 build at around 100w. Works great. I guess if I was running it in quad coil mode, I could see myself pumping up to whatever it's max is in TC mode (I would guess that's where 200w comes into it).

You must be going through juice quicker than a fat kid at a cakeshop 

Yes.  Yes I am.  On the plus side, I have halved my nic from 12 to 6 mg.  And I mix my own for dripping at least, so it doesn't cost quite so much.

[lee]

Jul 30, 2015 13:28:04 GMT xs2man said:

Jul 30, 2015 11:45:15 GMT lee said:

You must be going through juice quicker than a fat kid at a cakeshop 

Yes.  Yes I am.  On the plus side, I have halved my nic from 12 to 6 mg.  And I mix my own for dripping at least, so it doesn't cost quite so much.

 xs2man hahahah Thought you might some how, great going on reducing your nic though & mixing your own, im far to lazy & impatient to mix my own. But to be fair i vape 3mg/0mg desert/custard juices on my origenV3 at about 1-1.5ohm at between 9w & 15w depending so i only use about 2/3ml of juice a day  I imagine you can do that in a lung inhale at 100w!! 

[Get Off My Cloud]

I would assume the extra power with TC mode would serve the same purpose as the extra power with regular coils, it allows you to use thicker gauge wire and not have a long ramp up time.

[VapingBad]

Jul 30, 2015 14:12:41 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

I would assume the extra power with TC mode would serve the same purpose as the extra power with regular coils, it allows you to use thicker gauge wire and not have a long ramp up time.

It makes a difference with any gauge of wire if you are using steal wicks. I found the pre heat made a big difference to a Kayfun @ 15 W and a massive difference to an Orchid at 20 W.

[Bobsbeer]

While a lot seems to be known about the DNA200, does anyone know what board iJoy are using in the Asolo? They make lots of claims, but as with many TC boards the proof is in the clouds as they say. Anyone got one?