The "I'm new to nickel builds, help me please!" Thread

[iggy]

Aug 2, 2015 8:25:33 GMT chykensa said:

Update No. 2 -
OK, I was a little premature in my assessment of my first build. I think I have packed in a bit too much cotton, so will need to disassemble this morning (being a KFL, this is a pain, involving pouring the tank contents back into the bottle, washing and rinsing the components, and then rewicking) - I'll report back again after this has been completed.
I will also remove the KFL's airflow grubscrew to assist ventilation over the coil.

I'll be back!

Nice one chykensa I've been using occ Nic heads in a kanger sub tank, while waiting for a spool of Nic wire............ which I now have. So I'm following this thread religously, as I'm in the same boat, never built Nic coils before.

[chykensa]

Update No. 3 -
Right folks, I've rewicked with a little less cotton, and primed and refilled as before. The stats: .14ohm registered, running at 350deg F at 15w and working nicely. The only problem is the airflow on my KFL, which I have removed the grubscrew from, not that it's made much difference TBH.
Supplementary question #2,348! - what would you experts recommend as a suitable tank to build a single Ni200 coil in to get the full benefit of this style of build? I've heard good reports of the Lemo v2 from *-SARIN-*, but other suggestions would be welcome. I don't really want to buy something like the Atlantis, Triton, Zephyrus etc. unless the benefits outweigh the outlay!

Will report back again after a tank of Minty The Toff to let you know how it's going

[tim]

I just built a subtank mini with 9 wraps of 0.32mm (28 AWG) that came out at 0.12 chykensa. Running it at 400F on 35 watts with Black 'n' Blue and it is a new flavour. You simply must have one of those? It's the new and improved rba though, on a clone tank. I'm not an expert on this TC though (maybe never will be). I'm pretty much in your shoes.

[chykensa]

Aug 2, 2015 22:36:50 GMT tim said:

I just built a subtank mini with 9 wraps of 0.32mm (28 AWG) that came out at 0.12 chykensa. Running it at 400F on 35 watts with Black 'n' Blue and it is a new flavour. You simply must have one of those? It's the new and improved rba though, on a clone tank. I'm not an expert on this TC though (maybe never will be). I'm pretty much in your shoes.

tim, I don't have any subtanks at the moment; do you use open coils or microcoils in your rba bases? There doesn't look to be much room in them, just wondering how tight a squeeze the build is?
Might have to get me a Subtank just for the RBA base, although I'm off on holiday in a couple of weeks, and it would be nice to take it with me, so will have a trawl through the UK vendors for a good cheap one

[tim]

I did this wrap on a M3 screw chykensa. That makes an even closely spaced coil at 3mm ish. I probably could have wrapped it on a drill bit. It is much easier to work with than Kanthal. As long as you have the tempered wire, the wicking is simple. Not tried annealed, but I read that it deforms easy.

[chykensa]

Thanks tim, I have a couple of those screws in my coiling box so will try a build that way on another Kayfun sometime for comparison; having used twisted nickel this time, I'll also use single strand next time to see if I notice any difference in both building and wicking.

[jevans]

Does 80/20 Nickel Chrome work with TCs?

Jim

[Greg]

Aug 3, 2015 10:25:28 GMT jevans said:

Does 80/20 Nickel Chrome work with TCs?

Jim

No, you need NI200

[jevans]

Aug 3, 2015 11:06:40 GMT Greg said:

No, you need NI200

Damn!

Jim

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Aug 2, 2015 23:23:44 GMT chykensa said:

Aug 2, 2015 22:36:50 GMT tim said:

I just built a subtank mini with 9 wraps of 0.32mm (28 AWG) that came out at 0.12 chykensa. Running it at 400F on 35 watts with Black 'n' Blue and it is a new flavour. You simply must have one of those? It's the new and improved rba though, on a clone tank. I'm not an expert on this TC though (maybe never will be). I'm pretty much in your shoes.

tim, I don't have any subtanks at the moment; do you use open coils or microcoils in your rba bases? There doesn't look to be much room in them, just wondering how tight a squeeze the build is?
Might have to get me a Subtank just for the RBA base, although I'm off on holiday in a couple of weeks, and it would be nice to take it with me, so will have a trawl through the UK vendors for a good cheap one

chykensa there are couple of subtank minis for sale in the classies atm ... one of them has a couple of the stock Kanger ni200 heads included which is what I have been using while I wait for ni200 wire from FT.

[chykensa]

Thanks @yinyang, but my expenditure may be a bit curtailed for the next few weeks as we have just booked a week's holiday in Rhodes, so will have to save my pennies for beer etc.!!

I have now gradually eased the temperature and watts up, and am getting a good steady flavoursome vape at 390deg F at 28w, and increasing bit by bit. The amount of vapour,even for a KFL, is quite adequate, and an excuse to use up some of my higher nic juices now that I an predominantly sub-ohming.

I have another KFL washed and dried, just need to find time to bang a Nickel coil in, using the M3 screw single wire method for comparison. I'll report back once this is done!

[Gary Horder]

book marked this with eager anticipation of some ni dropping through letter box shortly .... Just received my istick tc40w ... but stupidly didnt purchase any ni ... doh ...

[tim]

I'm trying to build a dual coil atty (Cthulhu, similar to a goblin/Goliath) but not having much success. My latest was a twisted 0.2 aiming at 0.06 ohms (0.05 being the low limit on the mod). 10/9 wraps on a 2.5 former was the trial, but it reads too low to fire. Have I missed something? Calc says it should be ok.

I had the shorting stuff with anything bigger than 10/9, slightly spaced wraps. Is microcoil alright to use, or will I be wasting my time? and need thinner wire?

TIA

[VapingBad]

Aug 3, 2015 22:30:47 GMT tim said:

I'm trying to build a dual coil atty (Cthulhu, similar to a goblin/Goliath) but not having much success. My latest was a twisted 0.2 aiming at 0.06 ohms (0.05 being the low limit on the mod). 10/9 wraps on a 2.5 former was the trial, but it reads too low to fire. Have I missed something? Calc says it should be ok.

I had the shorting stuff with anything bigger than 10/9, slightly spaced wraps. Is microcoil alright to use, or will I be wasting my time? and need thinner wire?

TIA

Try giving the coil a strum (as in guitar) to ensure it is not shorting between loops, if that doesn't work push something thin between each loop like flat tweezers of a knife, if that doesn't work you can stretch it on the former rod then squash it again and that normally comes out even spaced.  And give it a strum after fitting the wick as that can pull them together again. 

[tim]

Aug 3, 2015 22:37:12 GMT VapingBad said:

Aug 3, 2015 22:30:47 GMT tim said:

I'm trying to build a dual coil atty (Cthulhu, similar to a goblin/Goliath) but not having much success. My latest was a twisted 0.2 aiming at 0.06 ohms (0.05 being the low limit on the mod). 10/9 wraps on a 2.5 former was the trial, but it reads too low to fire. Have I missed something? Calc says it should be ok.

I had the shorting stuff with anything bigger than 10/9, slightly spaced wraps. Is microcoil alright to use, or will I be wasting my time? and need thinner wire?

TIA

Try giving the coil a strum (as in guitar) to ensure it is not shorting between loops, if that doesn't work push something thin between each loop like flat tweezers of a knife, if that doesn't work you can stretch it on the former rod then squash it again and that normally comes out even spaced.  And give it a strum after fitting the wick as that can pull them together again. 

That's an interesting thing VB. When I put the coils in the ohms are close to my aim, but after wicking and juicing the ohms drops. I'll try that.

Thanks.