Ghosts/Spirits

[violetblade]

Jan 16, 2016 16:25:19 GMT Greg said:

I do find it telling that many recollections centre around very emotional times. I can't help but think subliminal imagination plays a part.
I don't mean to criticise at all but as a non believer I like to think there is an explanation for most things.

If emotions can crash/freeze a telly dvd and 2 computers then I agree with the above statement there were 4 of us in the room all adults who in all honesty aren't believers but all said it was a little spooky. Coincidence or not I don't know and probably never will but it was certainly not something I found comfort in.
I do have to agree however that in times of emotional distress we often take things to mean what we want like my drippy tap but there are somethings that just don't fit into that.

[Greg]

Jan 16, 2016 17:37:13 GMT violetblade said:

Jan 16, 2016 16:25:19 GMT Greg said:

I do find it telling that many recollections centre around very emotional times. I can't help but think subliminal imagination plays a part.
I don't mean to criticise at all but as a non believer I like to think there is an explanation for most things.

If emotions can crash/freeze a telly dvd and 2 computers then I agree with the above statement there were 4 of us in the room all adults who in all honesty aren't believers but all said it was a little spooky. Coincidence or not I don't know and probably never will but it was certainly not something I found comfort in.
I do have to agree however that in times of emotional distress we often take things to mean what we want like my drippy tap but there are somethings that just don't fit into that.

Maybe just coincidence / power supply glitch at an emotional time.

I remember dabbling with a ouija board as a teenager with mates, everyone swore blind they weren't pushing the glass, proper scary and I was convinced one of them was up to it.
Not convinced enough to try again though 

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Jan 16, 2016 17:06:55 GMT @broadblaster said:

I'm really not good with err words or as how to express what i'm trying to say, i just have never seen or have found any
real proof that any of these things people say they have seen or felt are real.
i have seen and read things about how this place or that place is haunted by a "good" sprit or a "bad" sprit but at the
end of said book or show there is never any real proof.
These is a lot of top end scientists with very big budgets working on different theorys on the sort of things and not one
has ever proved outright that there is such a thing as sprits/ghosts.
All i see is said people sat/walking about in a dark gloomy place then hear a bit of wind or a water drip shit themselves and
run around like headless chickens then say did you feel that there is x y or z in there but where is the proof.

sorry but as said in first post i don't want to ruin the OP's thread so sorry if my views annoy you as thats not what i set
out to do.

Didn't think you were rude for one second.
No worries.

[nanotm]

Jan 16, 2016 17:37:13 GMT violetblade said:

Jan 16, 2016 16:25:19 GMT Greg said:

I do find it telling that many recollections centre around very emotional times. I can't help but think subliminal imagination plays a part.
I don't mean to criticise at all but as a non believer I like to think there is an explanation for most things.

If emotions can crash/freeze a telly dvd and 2 computers then I agree with the above statement there were 4 of us in the room all adults who in all honesty aren't believers but all said it was a little spooky. Coincidence or not I don't know and probably never will but it was certainly not something I found comfort in.
I do have to agree however that in times of emotional distress we often take things to mean what we want like my drippy tap but there are somethings that just don't fit into that.

ahh well now see here, my eldest has this effect on tech, having read a certain book where they describe something called the "someone else's problem field" dynamics in great depth my wife and I worked out that there is such a thing as the NWNM (Not Working Near Me) field that operates on similar lines, except it requires a highly charged emotional state to trigger it, since getting her into the head shrinkers lounge and drugged into a plateau state there have been far less instances of this in our house, but before she could crash the network simply by entering the building and cause TV's to suddenly act up and all sorts of other electrical oddities....

given that the human brain works on electromagnetic waves and electrical signals its not out of the way to think someone could be hitting overload and effecting things near them, in such a fashion, the more people present in such an emotionally charged state the more chance one of them will inadvertently direct that build-up of potential electrical charge and effect all the tech nearby ......

having said that, I've seen ghosts marching , heard them moaning and witnessed something I would call benign possession, there's no chance that any of them were down to hallucinations, and it wasn't until after those events that I looked into and found out about the history of the place in question, indeed had I not been sober and bimbling home on a warm evening with a bunch of people i'd never met before that eventing (we all arrived in the town that day) hwho all had identicle experiances i'd probably have remiaind far more sceptical about all of it, thing is energy can be manipulated but to achieve things like that you would need powers that currently arnt available to mankind /

[Bobsbeer]

I don't call myself a believer as such, I view myself as someone with an open mind on the subject and neither disbelieve or believe. Yes some phenomenon can be explained, but others certainly can't. Yet. Let's face it, while we consider ourselves as knowledgeable and science has explained much of how we got to where we are as beings on this earth, we should not forget that in fairly recent times, most thought that the earth was flat. I look upon religion as an early means of explaining the unexplained. Adam and Eve and all that which science has now disproved, but at the time the bible was written it was considered the most plausible explanation of where human beings came from. Yes laughable today, but what will humans say in say another 2000 years of our explanations? No doubt they will be very different from our current scientific truths. So I don't dismiss it out of hand. I am waiting for science to catch up. There is much we don't yet understand.