Finally a Clapton build I can show.

[naDiel]

So got round to build my own Clapton wire (again!) and...




Finally got it right!

Spec is 24 gauge kanthal and 32 gauge nichrome.
Flavour gallore but destroys battery life on my mod... Until rx200 arrives

Tomorrow I want to build using Mad Rabbit 26 gauge and same nichrome. Hopefully same flavour value but better battery life!

To build I have used an old juice bottle with metal tip Safe to say if will be kept safe!

Also done an experimental build of 24 gauge kanthal and double claptoned that with mad Rabbit 26 gauge... BARELY got it to fit into post holes on the Tsunami but it drained battery pulsing it
Once I have the rolo in my hands will show it off

[enjay]

2x26G wrapped with something like 36G all nichrome 80 makes nice coils, I do a 6 wrap 3.2mm diameter for the tanks which sits about 0.18 ohms, it means I don't use nearly as much power at a 100watts because it takes less voltage.

Which mad rabbit? One is nichrome 90 and the other is 316 stainless steel.

Not sure where to buy the N90 yet but the vape mesh company does the 316 but also the 317L which is a purer quality.

And finally if you haven't already get yourself some ball bearing fishing swivels, join about 4 together and use them to hold the wire tight while wrapping. I think the ones I got are maybe black cat or something, pretty cheap off ebay.

[decoy]

I got shown a trick by someone were you use an old protank coil to feed the wire

[Greg]

Jun 12, 2016 3:16:17 GMT enjay said:

2x26G wrapped with something like 36G all nichrome 80 makes nice coils, I do a 6 wrap 3.2mm diameter for the tanks which sits about 0.18 ohms, it means I don't use nearly as much power at a 100watts because it takes less voltage.

Which mad rabbit? One is nichrome 90 and the other is 316 stainless steel.

Not sure where to buy the N90 yet but the vape mesh company does the 316 but also the 317L which is a purer quality.

And finally if you haven't already get yourself some ball bearing fishing swivels, join about 4 together and use them to hold the wire tight while wrapping. I think the ones I got are maybe black cat or something, pretty cheap off ebay.

100w of power is 100w of power regardless of voltage 

[jtc]

Jun 12, 2016 6:45:31 GMT decoy said:

I got shown a trick by someone were you use an old protank coil to feed the wire

Awesome that

[enjay]

Jun 12, 2016 8:03:16 GMT Greg said:

Jun 12, 2016 3:16:17 GMT enjay said:

2x26G wrapped with something like 36G all nichrome 80 makes nice coils, I do a 6 wrap 3.2mm diameter for the tanks which sits about 0.18 ohms, it means I don't use nearly as much power at a 100watts because it takes less voltage.

Which mad rabbit? One is nichrome 90 and the other is 316 stainless steel.

Not sure where to buy the N90 yet but the vape mesh company does the 316 but also the 317L which is a purer quality.

And finally if you haven't already get yourself some ball bearing fishing swivels, join about 4 together and use them to hold the wire tight while wrapping. I think the ones I got are maybe black cat or something, pretty cheap off ebay.

100w of power is 100w of power regardless of voltage 


Yeh but a 100watts can be achieved using less voltage with lower ohms, my RX lasts 2-3 days at a time with that ohms build using the samsung 25R's. With a higher ohm build it munches through the battery power.

[naDiel]

Jun 12, 2016 6:45:31 GMT decoy said:

I got shown a trick by someone were you use an old protank coil to feed the wire

Protank coils tend to go back after like 10cm's, so dropped that idea. Next (once I get more wire) I will be using some plastic clamps

[naDiel]

Jun 12, 2016 3:16:17 GMT enjay said:

2x26G wrapped with something like 36G all nichrome 80 makes nice coils, I do a 6 wrap 3.2mm diameter for the tanks which sits about 0.18 ohms, it means I don't use nearly as much power at a 100watts because it takes less voltage.

Which mad rabbit? One is nichrome 90 and the other is 316 stainless steel.

Not sure where to buy the N90 yet but the vape mesh company does the 316 but also the 317L which is a purer quality.

And finally if you haven't already get yourself some ball bearing fishing swivels, join about 4 together and use them to hold the wire tight while wrapping. I think the ones I got are maybe black cat or something, pretty cheap off ebay.

I have the Green variation and from research it only comes up as Blend of different SS wires. God know what that means but it vapes beautifully!

[SteveF]

Well done naDiel , hours of fun? Seems to taste so much better when you have done all the hard work.

To be honest naDiel even your RX will eat batteries using a 24g/26g clapton, far too much ramp-up time and no real gain in surface area.

I found 32g/0.2mm and 34g/0.18mm plenty fine enough for most claptons, not quite as much surface area as 0.09mm but it creates more larger pockets to hold the juice.



I have been holding the spools with a piece of pipe through the centre but I got a bit adventurous with my claptonising and knocked this up yesterday using a 60ml syringe.
I still prefer to tension by hand but with a counter weight it can be left to hang and follow the twist...to a point. Its a work in progress. I'm sure I have a stainless oil jet somewhere in the shed to replace the plastic tip.




39g/0.09 is very fine, its the wrap on the wrap

[naDiel]

Jun 13, 2016 19:12:04 GMT SteveF said:

Well done naDiel , hours of fun? Seems to taste so much better when you have done all the hard work.

To be honest naDiel even your RX will eat batteries using a 24g/26g clapton, far too much ramp-up time and no real gain in surface area.

I found 32g/0.2mm and 34g/0.18mm plenty fine enough for most claptons, not quite as much surface area as 0.09mm but it creates more larger pockets to hold the juice.



I have been holding the spools with a piece of pipe through the centre but I got a bit adventurous with my claptonising and knocked this up yesterday using a 60ml syringe.
I still prefer to tension by hand but with a counter weight it can be left to hang and follow the twist...to a point. Its a work in progress. I'm sure I have a stainless oil jet somewhere in the shed to replace the plastic tip.




39g/0.09 is very fine, its the wrap on the wrap

OK... Got confused here then
On this build I have used 24g with nichrome to wrap it.
Now I have used 26g mad Rabbit for the core wire and then nichrome (I THINK it was 0.11) to wrap it round that but if I am correct you are saying to go with even thinner core wire?
That would be hours of fun when trying to make sure the spool doesn't unwrap itself!

[SteveF]

I think we both have our wires crossed. lol

I thought that you had wrapped 24g/0.5mm with 26g/0.4mm.


I'd say go bigger than 0.11 or 0.09.
0.18-0.2mm is definitely easier to wrap and creates more space for juice to sit in.
Super fine seems to be better on a fused/parallel because of the larger gap between the two cores. (imo)

that fine stuff takes for ever to wrap even with the drill at 800rpm +
I had to clapton 1 metre of 32/39g to get the wrap for the one coil. Thank God for reverse.

[naDiel]

I can only imagine the fun you had!
What would be better for the core then?
I am quite happy with the 26g mad Rabbit but this won't last too long as I noticed that SS likes to gunk easier than kanthal. Or it is the juices I am running through it :x

[SteveF]

I pretty much stick to 26g nichrome for my cores, quick enough to heat up but not mega low resistance when it comes to a pair of coils.

obviously my own opinion on stainless but I think its the faster ramp up that gunks up the coils quicker.
watching SS316 coils temperature spiking on Escribe (DNA200) they heat up so fast there just has to be a corresponding residue build up.

When you get the RX there will be less need to build low, 9v output and 60amps wipes out a lot of the ramp-up with larger coils.

[enjay]

Jun 13, 2016 21:34:21 GMT SteveF said:

I think we both have our wires crossed. lol

I thought that you had wrapped 24g/0.5mm with 26g/0.4mm.


I'd say go bigger than 0.11 or 0.09.
0.18-0.2mm is definitely easier to wrap and creates more space for juice to sit in.
Super fine seems to be better on a fused/parallel because of the larger gap between the two cores. (imo)

that fine stuff takes for ever to wrap even with the drill at 800rpm +
I had to clapton 1 metre of 32/39g to get the wrap for the one coil. Thank God for reverse.

Hahaha that bit made me laugh

It's almost a joke just for clapton builders like it's a new geek thing lol

[enjay]

Jun 13, 2016 16:25:34 GMT naDiel said:

Jun 12, 2016 3:16:17 GMT enjay said:

2x26G wrapped with something like 36G all nichrome 80 makes nice coils, I do a 6 wrap 3.2mm diameter for the tanks which sits about 0.18 ohms, it means I don't use nearly as much power at a 100watts because it takes less voltage.

Which mad rabbit? One is nichrome 90 and the other is 316 stainless steel.

Not sure where to buy the N90 yet but the vape mesh company does the 316 but also the 317L which is a purer quality.

And finally if you haven't already get yourself some ball bearing fishing swivels, join about 4 together and use them to hold the wire tight while wrapping. I think the ones I got are maybe black cat or something, pretty cheap off ebay.

I have the Green variation and from research it only comes up as Blend of different SS wires. God know what that means but it vapes beautifully!

You mean blue? The ss version, 316 ss, they do that one and I've seen a purple one which is N90. Never heard of a green variation though. Can't find it anywhere online