juice questions and opinions

[ragjoy]

does anyone know what the base mix from ok is.
i get on fine with his juices, but drum get used much quicker than oh or gv.
why is this, is the base mix different.
does he use any vg at all, does pg vape quicker than vg.
i want to go back and try james juices again but dont know whether to ask for a pg only mix.
i also want juice that gives strong dry/raw throat hit and vapour, im not really that interested in after taste flavour, in fact it puts me off if its too flavoured.
i had some OH DF FROM OK and it was too flavoured (although i had had it before and didnt really notice it) i watered this with pg and it was a mile better.
i actually think some smells/flavours give me a headache or could it be too much nic.
any opinions guys.
raggy..........

[ken]

Hi Raggy,

I think the Prof is the man to answer your questions as he has reviewed some OK Smokeys juices.

In the meantime you might get some clues from these google links.

www.google.it/search?source=ie7&q=ok+smokeys+juice+reviews&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:{referrer:source?}&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSEA_en-GBGR349&redir_esc=&ei=bDafTKXxNcrDswbWq5XmDg

Ken.

[ken]

Raggy,

forgot to say ref the headaches.

In my case, I have 18mg,24mg and 36mg juices and can vape on 18mg grand however if I try 24mg I will get a little bit heady and if I try 36mg I will def get a headache so I will cut the higher nic ones with VG to solve the problem.

Take this with a pinch of salt though as In some ways I am still experimenting.

Ken.

[ragjoy]

thanks ken,
i dont think its the nic as ive always used very strong juice.
i am wondering though if the stronger nic sort of increases or changes flavour strength, if that makes any sense.
raggy...........

[liz]

"i want to go back and try james juices again but dont know whether to ask for a pg only mix.
i also want juice that gives strong dry/raw throat hit and vapour, im not really that interested in after taste flavour, in fact it puts me off if its too flavoured."

Hi Raggy,
I was just browsing on the Flavourart site and came across this which I thought might be of use to you.
It also occured to me that their way of selling, ie get a base liquid of your choice and add the flavour
yourself may well suit you if you don't like too much flavour.

55% PG + 35%VG + 10%water The perfect mix. Good compromise between vapour and hit

80% VG + 20%water. More vapour and sweeter.

95%PG + 5%water. Less vapour and sharper. Pronounced hit.

Hope this is of some use to you in your quest for the perfect vape!
Liz

PS I foud out that Liberty Flights sell Flavourart stuff so you don't have to get it from Italy.

[ragjoy]

Sept 26, 2010 14:13:00 GMT liz said:

"i want to go back and try james juices again but dont know whether to ask for a pg only mix.
i also want juice that gives strong dry/raw throat hit and vapour, im not really that interested in after taste flavour, in fact it puts me off if its too flavoured."

Hi Raggy,
I was just browsing on the Flavourart site and came across this which I thought might be of use to you.
It also occured to me that their way of selling, ie get a base liquid of your choice and add the flavour
yourself may well suit you if you don't like too much flavour.

55% PG + 35%VG + 10%water The perfect mix. Good compromise between vapour and hit

80% VG + 20%water. More vapour and sweeter.

95%PG + 5%water. Less vapour and sharper. Pronounced hit.

Hope this is of some use to you in your quest for the perfect vape!
Liz

PS I foud out that Liberty Flights sell Flavourart stuff so you don't have to get it from Italy.

thank you liz,
i will take a look at that.
but i believe that is what james would do if requested, the problem is what to request lol.

do you think ok must have an amount of vg in the base mix as it does produce a decent amount of vapor.
raggy...............

[Scylla]

Raggy, I wonder if it might be worth you trying PEG (Polyethylene Glycol) based juices? I found them slightly less sweet and maybe a tad drier.

However, Toby (iVapour-Elixir) only sells 15ml bottles @ £7.50 + P&P.

If you had a few spare bobs just to find out what it's like? Then we could look for other suppliers or pester Toby to sell bigger and cheaper and more flavours

www.ivapour-elixir.co.uk/peg-liquid/peg-liquid.html

TW has PEG base liquid:

www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/mixing-accessories/platinum-ice-54mg-mixing-juice-pg-or-vg-product.html


scylla

[ragjoy]

Sept 26, 2010 14:59:49 GMT Scylla said:

Raggy, I wonder if it might be worth you trying PEG (Polyethylene Glycol) based juices? I found them slightly less sweet and maybe a tad drier.

However, Toby (iVapour-Elixir) only sells 15ml bottles @ £7.50 + P&P.

If you had a few spare bobs just to find out what it's like? Then we could look for other suppliers or pester Toby to sell bigger and cheaper and more flavours

www.ivapour-elixir.co.uk/peg-liquid/peg-liquid.html

TW has PEG base liquid:

www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/mixing-accessories/platinum-ice-54mg-mixing-juice-pg-or-vg-product.html


scylla

thanks acylla,
i might just try some PEG and see how it compares.
has anyone here ever used it?
raggy........

[Lilac]

Raggy, you can usually hazard a guess as to how much VG is in a juice by looking at how the liquid moves in the bottle, as VG is a lot thicker than PG

[ragjoy]

Sept 26, 2010 17:07:43 GMT Lilac said:

Raggy, you can usually hazard a guess as to how much VG is in a juice by looking at how the liquid moves in the bottle, as VG is a lot thicker than PG

thanks lilac,

[hissie]

Raggy, maybe buy 2 sample sizes from James. Get the same flavour but ask for one pg & one vg.

[ragjoy]

Sept 26, 2010 21:05:47 GMT hissie said:

Raggy, maybe buy 2 sample sizes from James. Get the same flavour but ask for one pg & one vg.

hissie,
the last time i used vg i thought i was dying!!!!!!!!!!!

which is why i have not used james since then, even when james replaced it with a pg heavy mix the smell was there.
it is hard to explain, but when i used the pg heavy b+f the smell was obviously the same smell as the vg heavy b+f, its like when your really young and get really hammered on something like whiskey its a long time before you can even be tempted to smell it never mind drink it, if that makes sense.
raggy.................

[hissie]

Obviously you just can't get away with James' juice then, same as I can't tolerate TW juices. Could just be as simple as that.

You might actually prefer LF juices. They are not as "sweet" as James' juices. Their gold & silver (I think it's called), smells & tastes exactly like a cigarette. No sweet sickly smell or taste at all. Their menthol cigarette flavour smells and tastes exactly as the title.

LF sell small sample bottles, but I think they also charge p & p.

[ragjoy]

Sept 26, 2010 22:06:06 GMT hissie said:

Obviously you just can't get away with James' juice then, same as I can't tolerate TW juices. Could just be as simple as that.

You might actually prefer LF juices. They are not as "sweet" as James' juices. Their gold & silver (I think it's called), smells & tastes exactly like a cigarette. No sweet sickly smell or taste at all. Their menthol cigarette flavour smells and tastes exactly as the title.

LF sell small sample bottles, but I think they also charge p & p.

thanks hissie,
i will definitely have a look at gold and silver.
i think i can go back with james, as it was (i hope) just a psychological thing and as long as i stay away from the b+f hopefully it will be fine.
the thing is i want to buy from james as imo he is the most genuine generous and helpful seller ive come across.
i like to give the small guy my money and get a truly personal service.
ive felt ever since i stopped using james that he might feel he let me down, he didnt, he did everything he could and that alone deserves a retry.
dont get me wrong i really enjoy oks juice and have had nothing but great service from him.
im just in a bit of a quandary over my juice thats all.
thanks again hissie.
raggy.

[profbeard]

George at OKS says that his tobacco flavours are PG and other flavours have an amount of VG added to suit the individual flavour...