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Post by vapee on Jun 5, 2015 13:30:18 GMT
The main thing is they can take longer to arrive than a mod with no battery inside, possible to use faster shipping though, but separate 18650s can take ages unless using a faster shipping option.
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Post by vapee on Jun 5, 2015 13:27:10 GMT
Yea I agree with the points that people might then only rely on the blu tooth and not check the batteries physically, but one use of blu tooth is I guess to tell you when the charge is finished, then again the charger could just make a noise to accomplish this, also I would hope this gives info on the current voltage and rate its charging at, even temperature would be good cos the other chargers do have temp detection built in. Its safer to charge in a lipo sack, thick steel box or similar and on some kinda fireproof material such as a spare tile, as long as the charger doesnt over heat because of the sack for example, but most chargers don't usually depending on the charge speed. So blu tooth could be useful then if the charger is covered, but still best to verify the heat occasionally and actually see if its all charging fine, any weird smells etc. Also would be good to have a smoke detector nearby too.
Would be good if they provided a charger bag with the chargers as I'm sure they'd be cheap to include and sometimes if people get one off ebay they might not be made out of materials that can stand alot of heat.
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Post by vapee on Jun 5, 2015 7:25:06 GMT
I made some claptons but my drill didn't seem to have a 0 speed setting so it way either off or on at the first level speed and made it tricky to start the wire up! Oh the rage i had from the same situation. hehe yea I think the cheaper drills don't seem to have this feature, it also ate my thin gauge wire I think the pre made could be pretty decent instead of getting a big spool of 30awg or lower, I think though something like this would need a very slow speed for most of the wire lol was made by instagram.com/tomyneque/ if anyone wants to check it out. Yea about the presales, seems every company in china is doing it and the list of pre sale items are getting bigger by the day, even uk vendors are having to do it too, had some great deals on non presale a while ago though at gb with the sigelei 100w at $50, mvp3 was $40 also, its a shame that people have had troubles occasionally but I found them to be decent, with good prices on alot of stuff. I like that the points system lets you use the points right after its been dispatched too. Ive used ft for ages but focal and gb are bringing out some great deals often and seems ft doesnt do the coupons very often. Theres been delays with products on ft also with some showing estimated dates keep being pushed back, so have to be very patient with all the shops. To ft's credit they did honor some pricing errors in the past and they do seem to stealthily drop prices on items sometimes but have to dig around to find em. Even on the latest tw newsletter it seems the new evic is a pre order for now and they are partners with Joytech I think.
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 15:58:27 GMT
Yea seems the sonys are good, I read there may be panasonic 4000mah 18650s in the works too lol but maybe not high drain, could be interesting though for under 10amp vaping like alot of the other panasonics. It's an interesting subject, battery's, so many to choose from and so many clones ! I am a big fan of the efest purples, only had one go belly up in over 14 mths ! . The worse is a uniross that I bought in error, all the power of a wet fart ! Yea definitely alot to choose from nowadays, used to just be the AW's that were reccomended years ago and the aa's are great these days too with some holding their charge for ages, decades ago the rechargeable aa's were so bad lol Hopefully future ecigs will be powered by graphene batteries in the future, sounds like theyre getting close, hopefully they make em in 18650 sizes too physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/nov/26/graphene-supercapacitor-breaks-storage-record
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 15:42:54 GMT
Yea seems the sonys are good, I read there may be panasonic 4000mah 18650s in the works too lol but maybe not high drain, could be interesting though for under 10amp vaping like alot of the other panasonics.
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 15:15:18 GMT
Yea I think most are re wraps of something, most likely the ones who will bring out higher drain batteries than the current ones with higher mah would be samsung, sony, sanyo, lg, or panasonic, the aspire one seemed bit pricey too afaik, when you compare with say samsungs from ft Yea I dunno how long torchy's batteries usually take to arrive but it won't be anything like some arrivivng from ft earlier this year that took 2 months lol - they do have faster shipping for batteries now though again luckily!
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 14:59:32 GMT
Just read at ukv and then after on ecf about someone with some battery testing equiptment testing the new aspire 18650 40a batteries out and it seems from the thread that at around 30amp they got too hot and started to vent in the test equiptment, so they think its more likely rated at 15a continuous and also not hybrid chemistry but ICR. Todd was on the ecf thread and is gonna send torchy some of those aspire batts just to have another test out there and has alerted aspire about this too. So if anyone is using them and it feels too hot, maybe back off a bit to keep at the 15a limit, hopefully torchy gets a look at them soon though too. ukvapers.org/Thread-Safety-warning-Aspire-40A-18650D-batterieswww.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/aspire-40a-18650d-cell-tests-results-not-good.677854/
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 14:50:56 GMT
That new evic vt looks nice, big screen too and temp control for nickel or titanium wire, just a fair bit pricier than the istick 50, sub box or mvp 3/3 pro but the only one of those with any temp control. Apparently theres gonna be a version of the sub box with a spring loaded connector, I guess that could be version 2, maybe theyll go for temp control soon, seems innokin are testing temp control for a new mod also. Its gonna get very tricky to collect em all Yes it's more money but it's a TV device and you do get a atomiser, mains charger, spare coils and a silicone sleeve. And the cost for these need to be factored in. Yea thats true, I guess its not alot more than the itaste mvp 3 pro but temp control too, seems itll be more successful than the original evic hehe
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 14:03:56 GMT
That new evic vt looks nice, big screen too and temp control for nickel or titanium wire, just a fair bit pricier than the istick 50, sub box or mvp 3/3 pro but the only one of those with any temp control. Apparently theres gonna be a version of the sub box with a spring loaded connector, I guess that could be version 2, maybe theyll go for temp control soon, seems innokin are testing temp control for a new mod also. Its gonna get very tricky to collect em all
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 13:21:56 GMT
Some use denture cleaning tablets to leave the tanks to soak in too so could be a good alternative or at the same time maybe, theres quite cheap too which is nice! But hand washing each kayfun v4 part would be so much easier with an ultrasonic cleaner
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 13:19:44 GMT
hey, no problem! I do like the look of both the new sub box setups, just heard on pbusardos latest video that it uses pulse width for when it has to drop the voltage below the battery power so not an issue really at higher watts or higher resistance coils
Another mod that looks interesting is the mvp v3 pro 60 watt too, but it might be a bit bulky, has a similar battery life to the istick too and innokins products are usually well built, just its not as ergonomic as the istick 50.
So many to choose from these days lol
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 10:51:46 GMT
Hey, I think it depends on whether you want an inbuilt battery or not and also battery life. With the sub box you can charge a few at the same time in the charger and have them ready for when they run out where with the istick itll last longer but once empty would probs need to use another mod for a few hours. Also currently the inclusion of the sub tank means the price is pretty decent of the subox kit although istick 50s have dropped in price a bit from china. I think both have a relatively flat DC signal which is good, the reviews of the subox seems to say that most attys sit flush but the connector is not spring loaded so some might have a small gap, the included subtank doesnt seem to though. The isticks been around longer so has been tested longer then, I read there may have been issues about autofiring though, but it doesn't seem widespread so hard to tell how reliable/safe in general, but just worth reading around about that if its a concern. Since the subox has just been released theres no info really on whether it could have a similar issue or not. One good thing though for safety with replaceable batteries is if it decides to melt down, you can remove the battery alot easier. The size is smaller of the subox also but some say the paintwork of the new black and white tank may be able to rub off over time, no idea though! One thing with the istick 50 and subox is the charge port on the side which means you can charge with the mod standing up, however the itstick 50 has the connector quite high so if there ever is a leak from the tank, it could find its way to the connector in theory, also a possibility with the subox but not as high as the connector is lower down. Maybe thats not a concern for most though, and can be sorted out with a rubber mini usb cover. I also would have preferred the venting of the subox to be on the bottom of the mod, its luckily on the side away from the atty so if theres a leak any liquid won't find its way into the venting area but would have to be careful in the rain for example, I think that can b sorted with some kind of thin sticker though to cover it up but still alow any slight pressure to push through. I think alot of those safety concerns are not widespread though but just thought I'd mention them
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 8:29:11 GMT
A quote "It says: "Addressing the high prevalence of smoking in people with mental disorders offers the potential to realise substantial cost savings to the NHS, as well as benefits in quantity and quality of life.""
Of course the cost savings are mentioned before quality of life in that sentance!
I guess it would be too expensive to figure out why people smoke in the first place than claim smoking is the major problem. If the mental health services were given more funds in the first place and those funds managed properly too, then there would be a smaller amount of people smoking. It amazes me how much taxes are collected but yet they claim theres not enough funding for health, even if people paid higher taxes it wouldn't make a difference because most of it seems to disappear.
There was also an article a while back about policies in the US wanting to stop soldiers from smoking even in the battlefield in obviously higher stress situations, of course smoking was the main health problem there!
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 7:49:50 GMT
Those high watt vapors like 100 watt+ seem to mainly use drippers, although some tanks can go pretty high too, but the big airflow from some of those dripper really cools the vape down so its not as crazy as you would imagine, also using wire thats very thick requires some high wattage to even create much vapor so you could have a cool vape at say 20 watts in those compared to a kayfun which would not cope at that kind of wattage unless modified maybe.
Also with high watts you can take a short drag like 2 seconds vs maybe 5 seconds from lower watts and still get a tonne of vapor, it all depends on whether the flavor is good when hotter too as some don't taste as good whilst others are better.
Something to note also is with high watts people use high vg juices mainly as high pg would become a bit harsher on the throat, but also depends on whether you want alot of vapor or not too and would need to wick tanks for high vg with less cotton than higher pg.
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Post by vapee on Jun 4, 2015 7:05:20 GMT
Looks interesting, there hasn't really been any 6 or higher bay chargers from the trusted makes of chargers yet, great alternative to charging 18650s in a mod cos you can just charge a load of batts at the same time and not worry about charging for quite a few days I find. Also the efest luc4 I found to be decent with their range of charging options going from 0.5amp to 2amp so you can charge things like the samsung 25r's alot faster.
I found the temperature of the charger and batteries of the efest luc v4 to be quite low whilst charging which is good, compared to the nitecore d4 that seems to get really hot and give off some smell of electronics!
Would be good if it gave data on the charge in the form of graphs or something to the phone, maybe into a file where you can compare the same batteries each charge and notice any differences, but as long as it has the functions of the luc v4 too it seems interesting.
Theres hobby chargers with usb outputs that you can get that kinda info but cost a bit more and require you to go through a fair bit of settings to make sure its right for your batteries as well as purchase a separate power adaptor and 18650 battery holder for the charging.
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