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I guess so much depends on how an individual regards vaping. When I smoked cigarettes, I didn't regard it as a hobby, nor did I join forums to discuss the relative merits of Marlboro Reds versus Dunhill International with like-minded people.

When I'm buying a new fridge or a computer, I often spend quite a while on the internet looking for information. That includes forums.

Some people consider vaping as a hobby, some consider it as a means to an end.

Some people feel passionately about a subject, some people don't.


What I'm trying to do is show you - with my "somewhat valid" points - that there are always going to be only a minority of people who will get involved.

We can only imagine how many people are vapers but never use a forum of any kind. We can only imagine how many people are here because they enjoy the company and interaction of a forum and because that's just as important to them (maybe even more so) than vaping.

What I can't seem to see anywhere is a strong cohort of organised people coming together with one voice and saying "this is us, here's what we do, here's what we need, get involved!" No, what I've seen to date is a couple of lone voices asking if anyone's interested and almost apologising for bringing the subject up in the first place. To be honest, if these voices represent the strong, united voice of vaping which is going to present the case for consumers in the future, then frankly I'm not inspired. It seems like ECCA is a couple of well-meaning people who have written down a few ideas on the back of a fag packet (well, they've given up, so it wasn't going to be any use for anything else) and are now trying to drum up support. Last week, someone was suggesting that this should all be funded by the vendors - making it into a trade association rather than a consumer association (IMVHO) and this week it's another slightly apologetic call-to-arms which is falling on deaf ears.

Look, I don't have any reason to pick a fight, but I'd love it if someone with real passion leapt to the defence of ECCA and ripped me a new one in the process. As a relative newcomer to vaping, what I'm seeing seems like the equivalent of those people who stand at the station rattling a tin because they feel they should, but looking very embarrassed and definitely too afraid to actually accost anyone and ask them for a donation.

C'mon, prove me wrong. Please.