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Post by oxo on Mar 21, 2013 9:48:06 GMT
Do e-cigs deliver nicotine?
Of coarse they do find me a study that shows where the nicotine that does not make it to the vapour is hiding, then I will take the links you posted as educational.
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Post by oxo on Mar 20, 2013 22:04:08 GMT
Looking forward to getting spinner now, Mod sounds interesting lol If you like messing about with bits of wire and wicks look at rebuildable drippers, they work well on spinners so Im told and they do wonders for the flavour of a juice. They are a worth while shiny.
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Post by oxo on Mar 20, 2013 21:33:34 GMT
oxo, your right there about taste buds they are def changing, but feel better in myself for stopping the rip of fags Watermelon is a strong flavour but dont vape it all day get a subtle one to give the buds a bit of rest and exercise, you might find watermelon sickly later on. Fags are a thing of the past, you can save a few bob so long as you steer clear of the shinys, well done ditching them looking forward to you posting your favourite vapes, When youve sussed youre flavours.
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Post by oxo on Mar 20, 2013 21:13:04 GMT
Hi karma, I currently have a tornado tank from tw was recommended by a friend, just looking at options to get a stronger flavor. Thanks Your taste buds are still waking up, give them time the flavours get better, I waisted a few weeks giving the taste buds a good beating. Its difficult to restrain but be satisfied with the strength your tasting there is a lot in the juice your using thats still hidden from you. Push to fast and the taste buds go into retreat. oxo
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Post by oxo on Mar 20, 2013 17:10:54 GMT
So far my shopping list is as follows: - PH paper strips
- Malic acid
- Magic Mask
Malic acid gets a mention in the magic mask write up in the link Ash posted it doesnt alter the ph but it might mask any vinegary acidy taste if your using vinegar to squash the alkaline levels. I want to get on with a bit of experimenting this theory could turn either way.
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Post by oxo on Mar 20, 2013 13:34:52 GMT
Don't F'art do some random additives like this Nick? Haven't looked specifically, but I seem to recall having seen something like on Liberty Flights maybe or Ecigexpress. Yes - they do MTS Vape Wizard and Bitter Wizard which (as far as I know) are used as flavour enhancers/modifiers, not acidity regulators. Although maybe that's part of the secret? A first search for a product that might do this turned up the following: www.jones-hamilton.com/products_phase_food.html. Anyone fancy trying to vape sodium acid sulfate? On the face of it, it sounds like an awful idea but how do we know what is safe to vape or not? Afterthought: Malic acid? Not exactly taste-neutral but I'm sure I've seen mention of it being used in ejuice. Acid reacts with water to make electric and tastes bitter. Alkaline tastes bitter with a soapy feel. One cancels out the other. Our sense of taste is only electric signals to the brain and we have only sweet sour salt and bitter that our tongues detect all the flavours are just a combo of these sent at different electrical frequents. Apple vinegar is alkaline and regular vinegar is acidic, both are of the shelf at the local shop. Im just looking for the Ph that dont interfere with electrical production without making things too bitter. Im not knocking any incoming info Ill be looking what malic acid is and if its the main component or associated with a vinegar.
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Post by oxo on Mar 20, 2013 11:40:18 GMT
It is and it isnt. Im only mixing for myself, Any experimenting fluids are only mixed in 2 to 5ml samples, I can afford to dump that kind of quantity as Im only on a relatively low nic mg. Ive a feeling the pool testing kits might need bigger samples. Its something Ill look into when Im out and about, Thanks for the heads up. the test strips are good.
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Post by oxo on Mar 20, 2013 11:16:42 GMT
+1 for steeping! Also, any ideas for an acidic additive for juices besides vinegar? PS: anyone got any PH paper handy? The chemists round our way are useless they dont stock litmus paper, if you ask for Bromothymol Blue eye brows start to raise the 12N Sulfuric Acid request is jaw dropping even though its diluted to less than 1%. I would really like some kit that let me test the PH most suitable for my mixing needs, from there I could start looking at experimenting using vinegar. For people coming into mixing. Its instinct to add more flavour and even start at high % of concentrate . It all takes time and corner cutting is too tempting Ive had a couple of weeks vaping juices that die, now Ive learned the basics, Its good of you to keep chanting the mantra as there is going to be a constant stream of mix and vape same day people visiting the board.
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Post by oxo on Mar 19, 2013 11:37:46 GMT
None of the TV appearances have yet featured a clearo or any other devise that you fill up yourself. The caller tried to talk about his Ecig and was talked over, If they are not supermarket friendly they aint going to show. Another good advertisement for cigalites and corporate refills, why hide the more popular fill your own devises ?
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Post by oxo on Mar 18, 2013 22:13:45 GMT
Flavour arts uk have it in stock, Ive some coming, was expecting it today, ordered last thursday about 2.30.
Ive never tried it but I think it'll just be like putting salt and vinegar on fish and chips, its supposed to round it off and enhance the flavours.
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Post by oxo on Mar 18, 2013 9:28:49 GMT
Dont do it.
After mixing my first flavours a few weeks ago and tasting how strong they was only to start fading away I started to do my following mixes with more concentrate. I was expecting a stable strength flavoured juice but got the opposite, flavours that died on me, tasting of very mild soapy water. I have mixed at 25% 30% and 35%.
Reading about, I heard about vapers tongue and what people do to try and cure it, one guy said eat salt and vinegar crisps, I give it a go and I could taste the juice not as strong as it should of been and it soon died off after a minute or so. Not having any more crisps I gargled some malt vinegar again the vapes taste returned for a few minutes then died off. I then remembered reading one of maccafans posts where he was saying vapour is very alkaline, the penny dropped as I realized the vinegars acid had been neutralizing any alkaline build up on my taste buds.
I have done some more mixes at 20% and the flavour is there not intense as I was striving for when I first start mixing but not weak either. Im now starting to look at adding concentrate the same like butting sugar in my tea, If it tastes ok dont up the sugar to make it sweeter you get used to it in no time and end up having to put more in. This only leads in the juice case to an over alkaline mouth leaving you wondering where the hell as the flavour disappeared to. Im now going to experiment with lower %ages and find out just how much flavour gets lost to mixing over strong juice.
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Post by oxo on Mar 17, 2013 11:38:09 GMT
I already did this too. There are a lot of videos on the net wich are showing how to assemble a tank, to fill and to prime. I tried also making things "wrong". But every time the same thing! After a few puffs I have to start over.... Dont start over take your drip tip off and poke a bit of tissue down to try and dry off the top of the carto as soon as you hear the gurgling. You'll end up going through too much juice if you keep doing a complete dismantle and end up bazzing it in the bin. I made a plug out of an old drip tip just to make double sure I wasnts getting any juice going into the top of the carto when filling. Have you a slotted carto ? My neighbour says they dont work in his 3ml tank, he buys his from tw but the holes are like pin pricks, one he gave me to try I coulnt get to work. Im using slotted cortos.
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Post by oxo on Mar 17, 2013 11:16:45 GMT
I threw mine in the draw for a week when I was having the same problem. I went back to it only to discover I had taken the carto out to prime it and but it back through the wrong side. This some how stops a vacuum building up in your tank and you end up sucking through juice with no resistance. If everything is right just blow through the carto from the battery end and stick a bit of tissue at the other end to mop up any exess juice that would be gurgling up into your mouth. Im using a 6ml tank and it dont like to be sat to long or the carto gets to wet, Ive to take it easy for the first ten drags or so then I can drag on it a lot harder.
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Post by oxo on Mar 16, 2013 21:32:58 GMT
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Post by oxo on Mar 16, 2013 16:44:33 GMT
When I made the first batch up it smelt and tasted of rhubarb and custard. This time there is a slight hint of smell but no flavour, yet I used the same amount as the first batch, this was why I was wondering if it was the nic base. I keep having flavours going dead on me, Ive been mixing at +30%. After a lot of running round the web Ive read that to much concentrate can overbear the taste buds and kill the taste. I dont know how true it is but Ive flavours coming monday this batch Im going to mix at 15 to 20% and let them steep, Ive always been too impatient with the others and put plenty in and vaped them straight away. I dont think the nic base accounts for no flavour, it sounds more like vapers tongue creeping up.
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