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Post by siffy on Sept 23, 2013 18:39:50 GMT
I've never even tried and I know I hate it Me too!...he he he
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Post by siffy on Sept 23, 2013 17:00:53 GMT
"May be as harmful as normal tobacco" ... "Potentially carciogenic compounds" ... "Potentially toxic chemicals and metals" ... "Carcoiogenic molecules in significant amounts" Statements like this true or not, make people think, and wonder, and all non smokers, and non vapers who read this would tut at the first vaper they saw, because they believe it. This is a sad fact. Quite right, I read it thinking there must be some new evidence that I must catch up with. But there was none. I bet if my Mum reads this though, as a non vaper she will automatically believe it. And my husband too.
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Post by siffy on Sept 23, 2013 13:34:30 GMT
Hiya xs2man
Great that you're back, have missed you.
I bet you're glad to be home.
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Post by siffy on Sept 23, 2013 13:31:57 GMT
Awww many congratulations to you both and I hope you enjoy tasty food at the French Bistro, what a treat.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 18:24:47 GMT
siffy, not fussy, discerning Good to know about the lime and vodka, I liked the idea of a lime based vape but was imagining a tart citrus taste rather then sweet so thought I'd be disappointed, I'll check that one out. I intend to mix my own eventually but at the moment just need to keep off the cigs, find some good tobaccos as bases and then blend in fruit, spice, chocolate, floral etc for variety when I can find good ones. Decadent Vapers have some natural flavours including a rose but I haven't tried them yet. Also need to find a good chocolate - I'm thinking Green & Blacks dark rather than Cadbury's milk. Good luck on your finding the flavours you enjoy and let me know how it's going. The Alchemist popped a thread on mixology about natural concentrates, did you see it? Green & Blacks, yes I'm on your wave length with taste expectations.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 16:28:49 GMT
I will be following this with interest. In what way are they good or different? I haven't started diying yet, still reseaching so this is something that I'm looking forward to hearing your view on. Well.... they are UK Manufactured Organic Natural Concentrate Flavourings, so very different from the run of the mill ones that everybody uses. Highlight that they are “ Organic" and " UK Manufactured", they are “Essences from natural products” in a PG carrier, they are not laboratory made flavours and not “nature identical”. They are also unique, as in nobody else stocks them! Kev Wow well I am looking to forward to to trying your juices that contain these essences. I take it we will be one of the first to know when you start using them in your e lquids and selling them? I am very much looking forward to the fruit flavoured ones. This is wonderful news.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 15:44:45 GMT
Hi Mixers, Just testing the water, with the mixers of this forum..... re:- The interest for some new "UK Manufactured Organic Natural Concentrate Flavourings" - trust me.... they are good!! I may have a very interesting announcement to make in the Vendors Forum, subject to interest in the above. The Alchemist (Kev) I will be following this with interest. In what way are they good or different? I haven't started diying yet, still reseaching so this is something that I'm looking forward to hearing your view on.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 15:32:59 GMT
ginge7289 The House of liquid blends look good. Everything recommended so far looks good, thankyou everyone. It doesn't have to be completely natural. I think to get a tobacco blend naturally isn't possible. It's the 'fruit' additional flavourings that are too strong and sweet for me and have a permanent aftertaste. Natural flavourings don't have the aftertaste. Obviously some blends and brands are better quality than others but as a newbie I have to go on recommendations. Some people perhaps don't notice the aftertaste especially if they are vaping constantly, which I'm not, and having all food taste of synthetic apple for a few days isn't good! I am going to check out the House of Liquids too. To be honest the fruits I have tried in the past (from various vendors) left me with a permanent aftertaste too. I was worried if I was coming across as fussy so I'm glad to see it's not just me that finds the flavourings unplesant. I found it even more frustrating as I really don't fancy vaping cake tastes all day so fruit seemed the way to go. I will say I have found the Alchemist vodka and lime to have a fresh taste but obviously with my tastebuds I just can't vape that in the morning. I am considering going diy but half the problem is the concentrates will still taste the same and I'm no diy chef when it comes to juice. It's just I don't eat chewits of sweets so find it difficult to get any satisfaction from vaping them. Like I say though the vodka and lime does not taste like chewits or sweets and the Egg custard tart is lovely after dinner. The link dinamic22 has posted is one I am going to watch with intrest as if The Alchemist is going to start stocking organic concentrates it will pay me to hang fire a. Order my diy concentrates from there (fruit wise) Like I say I am so glad to find another person who is also exexperiencing the sweet synthetic aftertaste. Not that I'm glad you are but I knew I wasn't imagining it myself. Like I say I will follow your posts with intrest.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 13:44:58 GMT
Hi Siffy I have a little experiment going on just now wherebye i ve made up two identical mixes of a tobacco concentrate but in one i ve put some tobacco absolut into the recipe to do a comparison .TA really does needs steeping and im leaving it another week but ill post any results on this thread if it goes to plan, as it may be one of the pieces in your jigsaw. Tobaccos for me fit into a few taste categories.. peanut butter(seriously disgusting and guessing its overuse of Trimethyl-pyrazine) liquorice undertaste(its ok but cheating) sweet(seem to be alot overusing stevia and whilst its fine for a while it gets sickly) I get where your at with tobaccos though but im just lucky that im quite happy with slightly sweet with the addition of DNB. Im having a dull moment though...what is MTS? Not much help i know but ill get back to you on the TA tester bottles Hiya rich64It seems MTS is Vape Wizard. www.myfreedomsmokes.com/diy-concentrated-flavorings/all-flavorings/fa-mts-vape-wizard/You may of heard of it as Vape Wizard rather than MST. I look forward to you reporting your findings very much. It's so silly and frustrating really but my first vape sets me up for the day as a ciggy would. I don't even have a tobacco taste I'm chasing really as my cheapo Pall Malls (all I could afford) just had no taste, where dry and deffo not sweet. It's just the ruddy sweet aftertaste tbh, so simple yet so frustrating. I am going to order my kit and the three concentrates listed from the recipe I found. Failing that I will just continue to purchase USA and add Bitter Wizard or hopefully the Delight will be the dry smokey sensation it promises, with no actual taste...lol Thanks ever so much for coming in on this as I really do appreciate it and need all the advise I can get.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 13:35:15 GMT
twiglet there is siffy on the forum comes from Essex she will see this thread now i have tagged her Hi twigletI'm in Great Oakley Essex but we lived in Loughton first (miss it if I'm honest) Hope if you organise an Essex meet you'll let me know. Thanks for tagging me dinamic22.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 12:40:33 GMT
Thanks keepitgoinAnd good luck on your vaping journey too. He is lucky as he has found he likes USA mix so has no juice taste issues (lucky thing!) I think with him he doesn't really want to drop the 5 a day and can afford to buy them. I do however hope that when his ciggy contact stops work (she is an air hostess) that will be the end of the cigs. He has all but said so to me. I live in hope though that it will happen sooner than later.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 9:06:40 GMT
Also when my Bitter Wizard comes how much do you think I should add? Should I add some to the 30ml bottle or a drop a time on my 3ml iclear refill? I'd decant some of your USA mix into a 10ml bottle, then try adding 1% BW Siffy . . . that will be less tiresome than adding to every clearo full and you won't ruin 30ml of it, incase it's not to your tastes. Can't really help you on the Tobacco recipe as they're just not my thing. The best I can suggest is having a look through the recipes and choosing one that appeals to you, you don't have to add all the ingredients like sweetener if they're not too your taste. There comes a point where you just have to take the plunge and work from there, even if the final mix isn't to your liking, at least you've eliminated that type of flavour from the ' to try ' list. Thanks for the info on Bitter Wizard Mandy, it should be here Tuesday so looking forward to adding it. I couldn't settle last night as my mind was racing with thoughts that there must be a recipe out there for me. I found it! ( Fingers crossed) It said... Perique and Dark Vapour by Frogs. Farts perique black 3% Dark Vapure 2% MTS 1% At 18mg I wonder if Frogs is our Frogster? I hope so as I am enjoying his products so fingers crossed it's him. So from your % knowledge what do you think? I mean from my research those are two concentrates that sound up my street and I imagine the MTS smooth out the rough edges? Can we please swap taste buds for a day Mandy...lol. I am a deffo sour tasting person as as a kiddy my nanny used to let me drink the liquid left in the mixed pickles jar and gerkins jar. If folk bought me Easter eggs they lasted till Christmas and thankfully soon cottened on to instead giving me a pound so I could purchase vinyl singles. I do wonder if maybe those who try vapping and don't stick to it are the ones that struggle with the sweet after taste? I mean you get everything else the throat hit, the lung fill and maybe the sweet undertones are the deal braker? I'm fine in the sense as there is an answer if you ask and search but what a shame for those who don't know where or what to ask. Thanks again for all your help.
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Post by siffy on Sept 22, 2013 8:14:27 GMT
Hiya Coffeandcigs, not just me then that finds the sweet fruit flavours cloying and, in my opinion not very nice. I too am new to vaping and have given up smoking (again) but this time I'm using a rechargable refillable cheapy. I am using a tobacco flavour at the minute that I got from a stall on a local Market (Penistone, near Barnsley) and its nicer than any "flavours" I tried. I used to smoke Rollups, so expected to want 24 strength eliquid, but I have found 18 fie, and am going to try less strength next week. I reckon I'll up the "harshness" of the flavour though. At £10 for 3x10ml its a LOT cheaper for a weeks vaping than 100g of tobbaco, and I'm sure as I get more into this new world (anything to distract me from smoking!) I'll get to find other people who want the taste of tobbaco!! Let me know how you get on finding a more "natural" flavour, as the sweet taste left by e-juice is something I would like to avoid as well. Oh and welcome by the way Morning, I'm in that club too sadly. I don't know about you but I find it a ruddy pain having overly sensitive sweet taste receptors as it's making my morning vape a pain in the bum now. I have just ordered a liquid called HS Delight as the review on Vape Escape said non tasting/neutral and ashy, a good alternative from fruity caramel type flavours. I have also ordered a product from 28 vapes later called Bitter Wizzard as that read up well at canceling out that sweet after taste. I have leant that the PV in our mix is naturally sweet so we might find most juices have that sweet aftertaste? That's why I'm going down the Bitter Wizard route so I can add it to my USA mix I have. It's funny as when I was vaping 24mg I honestly didn't get an after taste and it's since dropping the nicotine level that it's started. What doesn't help me at the moment is I'm still only 3 months into vaping and because my mind is still in the no taste, throat hit, lung fill memory zone I am truly finding it hard to accept sweetness in the morning. Yet I can happily vape vodka and lime or egg custard tart flavours after lunch, does the job lovely. Have a search on HS Delight and Bitter Wizzard it might be something that would help you too? www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=15www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product_reviews.asp?id=153&subid=4974&product-name=HS_Delight_PG_10ML_Extra_High_2.4_percent_(24MG)
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Post by siffy on Sept 21, 2013 18:01:42 GMT
Still keeping my fingers crossed that someone can help me.
I found a good description today of it being.....dry on the inhale yet smokey on the exhale. I just need some help from the pros on what concentrates together do that, pretty please.
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Post by siffy on Sept 21, 2013 16:15:54 GMT
I had to have a triple heart bypass 12 weeks ago, and the consultant I had at King's College Hospital was very encouraging re. me vaping instead of smoking. When I came off cigs ( I smoked for around 30 years) I started on 24mg liquid ( I used to smoke about 25 a day, more if I was drinking etc) but came down through the levels over some weeks and am now mixing my own at 3-4Mg. While I do vape quite a lot while I'm sitting at the PC etc I don't think I'm taking anywhere near as much nicotine as I was before with higher Mg. I found a bottle of 18Mg laying around the other night, and I had a quick blast of that and got a proper headrush! Your dad will do fine if he just comes down through the levels at his own pace. And you have to remember either way, vaping is MUCH less harmful all round than smoking all those chemicals and tar. I hope you are experiencing a great recovery and thanks a lot for the support.
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