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Post by siffy on Sept 21, 2013 16:14:58 GMT
Just to thank everyone again for their help on this subject. I normally chat to dad Tuesday but couldn't and have just finished talking to him.
He too said thank you very much indeed. In the meantime he has gone on 24mg and is finding that far more satisfying although no talk yet of dropping the 5, but you never know.
He also splashed out and purchased a blood pressure monitor as he's convinced that goes through the roof due to stress at being at the doctors, he like most hates having to go.
I read out bits and pieces from the links you posted, I checked he takes cod liver oil and he does. So fingers crossed his next check up will be better blood pressure and cholesterol wise. If not at least he now is happy to know that vaping is not the thing giving him the problems. He sees the doctor in about 2 weeks and now has his ammunition.
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Post by siffy on Sept 21, 2013 9:13:32 GMT
Please can anyone help me as I'm going round in circles tbh.
I am yet to order my diy kit as I truly have no idea what concentrates to purchase. I have ordered some Bitter Wizard and am looking to add that to my current pre bought USA mix, to disguise the sweet note coming through, sadly I can't bear sweet notes in a morning I can't even eat cereal for that reason, it's very frustrating tbh.
So what I hope to achieve is a morning non sweet tobacco mix at 70/30 and I have the Bitter Wizzard to add. I am not worried if the recipe is complicated for a newbie As I'd rather get it wrong 20 times but then get it right and at least have something I don't dread vaping in the morning.
So if anyone can help at all I'd like a smokey non sweet tasting recipe ( no bisciut, caramel of fruit), pretty please.
Also when my Bitter Wizard comes how much do you think I should add? Should I add some to the 30ml bottle or a drop a time on my 3ml iclear refill?
So sorry for all the questions but I am just after sorting this out then it will be brilliant for me and I won't dread my morning vape.
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Post by siffy on Sept 20, 2013 11:21:50 GMT
That link was brilliant Mandy! Thanks ever so much. It also had the Bitter Wizzard info on too which reads up as just what I need, it removes the sugar sweet undertones of the vg and pg base that I can sadly taste. Am going to read lots of flavours before I decide which to try, thanks again, just what I needed.
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Post by siffy on Sept 19, 2013 21:17:22 GMT
Perique Black is a background flavour, it is very very strong, it gives an bitter ashtray taste, often mixed with Dark Vapor at as low as 1 or 2% of each and then another good tobacco concentrate or extract as the main flavour. The above mixed tobacco base is then very good mixed with say, some fruit flavours and a dash of EM. Thanks for coming in on this. You see I'm not keen on a nutty, creamy, biscuity or fruit tobacco at all, am gutted as it really would make my life easier wouldn't it. So not a singelton flavour then? I'll go check out the Dark Vapor to see what flavours come through on that review wise. Thanks again for your help I really do need all the help I can get tbh. I just want to make a simple non fruity/biscuit/caramel tobacco juice for myself, just for day time use.
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Post by siffy on Sept 19, 2013 21:10:14 GMT
Brilliant link, thanks ever so much Mandy. Off to check it out.
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Post by siffy on Sept 19, 2013 18:10:29 GMT
Guys I have just read on the tobacco concentrate reviews about the perique black. If I'm reading it right it has no suggestions of sweet undertones at all, have any of you tried this? Could I use this on it's own as a first mix?
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Post by siffy on Sept 19, 2013 13:06:38 GMT
Worth a try Siffy if it spoils your enjoyment, this is what F'arts say about the product and recommend a 1% concentration to start with. Bitter Wizard is designed to reduce or eliminate the sweet base flavour that is give by PG & VG. Adding Bitter Wizard at 1%, vapers can get a pleasant, bitter aftertaste that can be enhanced further by increasing the % added.
Bitter Wizard works well with dark and tobacco flavours.
Suggested dosage 1% +
Thanks Mandy Do you know of anyone who has used it? That must be what is coming through the sweet base flavour of the pv/pg. Honestly I would give anything to be a sweet tooth, things like this (taste wise) would probably go unnoticed to me then. I had an elevenises coffee, cream and sugar vape today and it left me feeling unpleasant, a bit like coffee did when I was pregnant. Tut...so wish I was a sweet tooth, just gutted.
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Post by siffy on Sept 19, 2013 12:44:19 GMT
Hi guys
I am noticing a sweetish taste coming through on my USA 18mg liquid. I didn't notice it on 24mg but I just know I am not imaging it, I really am getting a slight taste of sweetness and to be honest I'm not overly keen. I could just jump back to 24mg but I was starting to get a slight headache.
I watched Lordy's video and it mentioned Bitter Wizzard, so is this what I need? If so how much do I add to my 3ml clearomiser?
I am fine to try sweeter taste after dinner but can't be doing with sweetish tones through the day. Keeping everything crossed that this is the product that will work, not going to make an impluse purchase till I check with the experts.
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Post by siffy on Sept 17, 2013 19:12:26 GMT
Yeah that should work perfectly fine if you stick to buying PG nic base. I will and thanks ever so much for your time and help, I really appreciate it.
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Post by siffy on Sept 17, 2013 19:04:10 GMT
The calculator you are using must not give negative figures because on e juice me up it actually says you would need to remove 0.3ml of VG to get it to 70/30. But as a rough guide you could leave it at 5.8 and it would just be a tiny bit over the 18mg you want No it must not give neg figures then. Oh pants.... So is it safe to say that if I vape pre made juices at 70/30 to buy 54nic pg and make up my mixes all at 70/30 and my calculator will do the rest for me?
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Post by siffy on Sept 17, 2013 18:58:45 GMT
If you used VG nic base you wouldnt be able to mix that recipe at 70/30 pg/vg. There would be too much vg base used to be able to balance it out with pg to get it to that ratio without taking the mix under the 18mg final strength I see jordan so is that why the vg changed to zero?
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Post by siffy on Sept 17, 2013 18:57:10 GMT
Guys I just tried it on the calculator and it said...(based on it being a vg based nic)
PG 5.8
VG O.O.... a bit fat zero, is this because the VG is in the nicotine base then?
So sorry about this but I want to understand a bit of what's going on before I start messing with it.
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Post by siffy on Sept 17, 2013 18:50:22 GMT
If you favour a heavier PG ratio then it's best to buy PG based nicotine. If you want to use my lazy method then 50/50 mix from LT in 26mg would be fine since you can cut it down with pg and the flavourings are pg based as well. Thanks jordan so best to buy PGnic, I think I will do that tbh. Karma so if I used @romlee 's liccy baccy recipe on the recipe board I got this using the POTV calculator, just both check this looks right for me please, preety please..lol Nb 54mg 100 pg 70/30 10mls at 18mg Base nic 3.3mls PG. 2.5mls VG. 3.0mls Liq. 0.5mls DNB. 0.2mls USA. 0.5mls Total flavours 1.2mls So just checking my understanding that had my nic base been vg based the PG and the VG would have been the opposite way round in quantity needed? Thanks to you both ever so much for your help, as you can see I need it!....lol
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Post by siffy on Sept 17, 2013 18:31:31 GMT
Thank you very much Karma and jordan. It's best I check my understanding before I rush in isn't it? I must be getting on yer nerves by now, sorry. So if I am a 70/30 pg/vg vaper I get a bit confused as to which nic base I would be best to use pg or vg nic base? I can't get the ejuice calculator as I have no pc you see, just a pad. So does that programme ask you if your nic base is pg or vg based? Does that effect everything depending on which it is? I have got an POTV calculator but am not sure where or if it asks pg or vg based nic you see. Just to update it does say pg or vg base, I can see it now.
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Post by siffy on Sept 17, 2013 18:28:41 GMT
Thank you very much Karma and jordan. It's best I check my understanding before I rush in isn't it? I must be getting on yer nerves by now, sorry. So if I am a 70/30 pg/vg vaper I get a bit confused as to which nic base I would be best to use pg or vg nic base? I can't get the ejuice calculator as I have no pc you see, just a pad. So does that programme ask you if your nic base is pg or vg based? Does that effect everything depending on which it is? I have got an POTV calculator but am not sure where or if it asks pg or vg based nic you see.
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