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Post by pedro on Feb 3, 2016 14:02:53 GMT
That customs fee isn't right unless the shipping docs show no german vat charged at source? Looking at stuff of minor value quite closely..aren't they? If we go out of the EU I would have thought that VAT would not be double charged, then it moves to import duties. Tell me about it, that particular item was shipped via DHL and when DHL is involved we always have a customs charge - irrelevent of the cost of the item. Wacom was supposed to have sent a packet of 5 pen nibs with the pen but they forgot to pack it in the parcel. When I contacted them they said they would send these pen nibs out separately - I told them not to bother as I didn't want to have to pay any more customs charges for something as small as pen nibs. I ended up ordering these pen nibs from China with no customs charges added  Its cause the canaries are outside the EU VAT agreement (but inside the EU for travel and legislation) kind of like Gibraltar and channel Islands so even a person in the UK will be liable for VAT from British territories I listed. To further add confusion for UK people Isle of Man is not part of the UK or the EU its a crown dependency. But in the UK I wont be charged VAT for items from there as they have a VAT agreement with UK |
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Post by pedro on Feb 2, 2016 21:58:32 GMT
I buy a lot from europe to be honest most things can be found cheaper even when you add on dhl or fedex delivery. Still get it in 3 days and save a few quid too.
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Post by pedro on Jan 9, 2016 16:54:13 GMT
It is not the most clear really is it. I think it is cause we are dealing with a few different elements all at the one time. Sometimes we read things and since there is so much info we skim read and miss words which makes sentances mean completly diffrent things. Happens to me a lot  . Eliquid falls under TPD but 0% nic does not. Refill bottles and tanks both fall under it but drip tips, accessories and batteries/mods don't appear to so they will fall under existing regulations. But they have used the term " devices capable of delivering nicotine by inhalation" so to me that means you cant sell a tank for 0% nic only. |
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Post by pedro on Jan 9, 2016 15:01:23 GMT
They do come under TPD they have used a catch all phrase
3.16.14 The Government will maintain the definition in The Nicotine Inhaling Product (Age
of Sale and Proxy Purchasing) Regulations which is drawn wider than the TPD2
definition, to capture all devices capable of delivering nicotine by inhalation, with the
intention that these Regulations cover existing and future developments in
technology providing protection for those under the age of 18. Scotland will
maintain the definition of nicotine vapour products in respect of the provisions
contained in the Health (Tobacco, Nicotine etc. and Care) (Scotland) Bill. The
definition in the bill covers all devices and e-liquids whether they contain nicotine or not
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Post by pedro on Jan 9, 2016 14:14:50 GMT
Well Pedro, these are not the final proposals and nearly ALL this applies to liquid sales and also flavourings. It will be published in about 4 - 6 weeks after the 3 weeks of discussions. I also think that Big P and T will be looking at the NHS to prop up any losses and will be pushing ecigs (they make of course) as a new and improved form of NRT. We know it works, but they are not making enough money. I also agree that the advertising was a little on the quiet side, we have to wait and see. The advertising is quite clear any advertising featuring cigarettes or tobacco must carry health warnings. Though these regulations never applied to ecigs even though the majority of respondents believed they did. Yes this does apply to the liquid side of stuff but gives no real clarification, which would have been a better way for me to put it probably. Question 2 ........................................................................................................................... 20 The Government intends to implement this provision of the Directive [TPD2 Article 8(8)] to mean images, targeted at consumers that are used to promote the sale of products, such as retailer websites offering products for sale. Do you agree with this approach? ........ E-CIGARETTE STAKEHOLDERS 3.2.3 E-cigarette stakeholders supported the Government proposals with regards to tobacco products, but there was some confusion over whether the restrictions on images applied to e-cigarettes, which they do not |
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Post by pedro on Jan 8, 2016 23:30:34 GMT
I dont think any of this really applies to the liquid side just the hardware.
Good points for me. Anything that does not come in contact with the liquid does not apply to TPD so only really looking at tanks (but includes all no only for 0 excuse)
0% nic having to be proved can be done by process to me does not have to be by testing in my eyes.
2017 till we see any real affect as a sell-through which means anything on the market will still be there till may 2017. Though nothing new on market after may 2016.
Other good thing I have read is no new additional testing on addictiveness or harm of substance than all ready available. Should bring down cost of testing to a reasonable amount. I dont know where people get the impression MHRA will do testing from though this will be up to manufacturers to get done from certified laboratory and submit which will be additional cost to application fee.
Also all lot of the panic merchants will be quieter about forums being banned and the like as seems the advertising stuff never applied to vapers.
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Post by pedro on Dec 22, 2015 9:06:51 GMT
The way I look at it the more draconian the rules are the more likely it is for vendors to seek work around rather than comply with them. You cant sell a device capable of being used to vape eliquid unless it meets all these criteria. So for example you could sell any tank as long as you dont supply it with coils as then its not a device being capable of being used for eliquid. For all the people who see this as being very strictly enforced. The mhra approved ecig I am lead to believe is just a cig a like so how can this be refiled without leaking (I know its not sold to be BUT if its a carto its widely known to be refillable). Same type of thing could be done with tanks sold as single use.
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Post by pedro on Nov 9, 2015 20:54:49 GMT
A lot are franchised shops with vaporized, so kind of pot luck with them.
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Post by pedro on Nov 2, 2015 19:57:12 GMT
Distilled water is not really sold in the UK like it is in the states. If you ask in a chemist for purified water this is just as good if not better for what you want, cheap as chips as well and no expensive delivery like ordering online distilled water
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Post by pedro on Feb 20, 2015 16:10:51 GMT
It's personal choice pedro. Most of us are aware of the various ketones and terpenes (aromatic hydrocarbons) in our juices, we choose to continue to vape them as still safer than smoking. Especially as most of the bad chemicals detected are well below what is considered safe. If it wasn't for terpenes, fruits wouldn't taste like fruits, spices wouldn't taste like spices. Without certain chemicals (at 'safe' levels) there would be NO flavour at all. Vape or smoke, the choice is so simple. If I was that concerned I'd vape unflavoured juice. Limonene hasn't hurt me yet!! I only have a problem with diketones in all there forms being in my liquid and I choose not to buy liquid that has that in any of it guises. It really does amaze me that everyone agrees diacetyl is bad for you but people are quite happy to have it in there liquid under another name and sometimes just plainly there. Yes I am aware it is part of the ketone group and thats why you might have mentioned them but its this sub group that we all agree is a known bad for you substance and dont want. How come my aversion to diketones means I should I have a choice to vape or not? I have a choice and choose to exercise it to minimise my exposure to diacetyl. I think you would be surprised by the amount of people who dont realise there juice still contains diacetyl in one form or the other. Look at the suicide bunny test results 114 ppm (about right never looked it back up) Acetyl propionyl thats .01% considering thats actually a lot higher than what they have measured the levels to be in the popcorn factory's where concerns were first raised and people were really affected. |
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Post by pedro on Feb 20, 2015 13:37:06 GMT
This is a thing that concerns me about a lot of liquid and why I dont buy from more than one or 2 manufactures that I know, as even though most have removed Diacetyl they are still using other Diketones in there liquid and these have the potential to be just as bad. Any manufacture that produces a buttery flavour and tells you they dont is either ignorant or lying. I used to love custurd/dessert flavours but the only flavour manufacturers/sellers I could find that would supply testing to show it was clear of nasties I did not want, just did not give me the flavour I used to love. After spending a long time looking into it I came to the conclusion you just cant make they flavours without using they chemicals thats why most companies still use them.
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Post by pedro on Jan 9, 2015 14:25:28 GMT
Strange how the 3G is still working, tethering off my Iphone. but it uses quite a bit of power, all ok at the moment, but if its a lengthy outage it wont be fun, as most properties are storage heating. Thanks all All the mobile phone mast have battery back-ups that keep them running during power outages, quite a good thing when they work. |
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Post by pedro on Dec 30, 2014 15:06:03 GMT
This juice looks to be coloured (don't like juice with colouring don't see the need) Do like the 80% VG content though. If they had a address on there website I might have ordered but with out that I would not touch the company with a barge pole
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. Eliquid falls under TPD but 0% nic does not. Refill bottles and tanks both fall under it but drip tips, accessories and batteries/mods don't appear to so they will fall under existing regulations. But they have used the term " devices capable of delivering nicotine by inhalation" so to me that means you cant sell a tank for 0% nic only. 
