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Diane Abbott has asked a question about ecigs in parliament:

"To ask the Secretary of State for Health what information his Department holds on the number of people who smoked electronic cigarettes in each of the last five years; what assessment his Department has made of the potential health effects compared to smoking; and what requirements govern the smoking of electronic cigarettes in enclosed public places."

www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2012-07-10a.115606.h&s=nicotine#g115606.r0

Gosh, this forum has gotten big, nice work Chrissie and all.

Just dropping in to see if Chrissie is going to register All About Ecigs as a stakeholder (closing date 13 May 2011). I don't think it matters if you don't want to submit anything to the consultation but you'll show them that we're interested and keeping up to date - guidance.nice.org.uk/PHG/Wave23/23/ScopeConsultation

There is also an opportunity for individuals to participate and this might be even more important. I haven't heard of any vapers joining up yet and I beleive it is important to get some on that panel. It's not for smokers only, is anyone interested? (Closing date Friday 13 May 2011) - www.nice.org.uk/getinvolved/joinnwc/CommunityMemberTobaccoHarmReductionPDG.jsp

These are bits that Andy/Frog has picked out as concerns:


An extension of the scope of the Directive could be envisaged to include novel forms of oral tobacco, herbal cigarettes, and electronic nicotine delivery systems

Novel forms of oral tobacco would be banned similarly to snus.

All types of smokeless tobacco products would be freely marketed in the EU, subject to possible requirements for appropriate consumer information such as health warnings.
OR
The ban on "snus" would be extended to all types of smokeless tobacco products.

Establish a positive common list of tobacco products ingredients
Only those ingredients that are on the list can be used for the manufacturing of tobacco products.

The cross-border sale of tobacco products (via the Internet) potentially undermines national tobacco control efforts, in particular the enforcement of the minimum purchasing age as well as the collection of tax revenues. Products sold on the Internet do not always bear health warnings or text warnings are not in the official language(s) of the Member State of the citizen ordering via the Internet.
Cross-border retail sales of tobacco products would be banned over the Internet. This might also include ban for postal delivery of tobacco to consumers

It looks to me like tobacco control are going to try to assert authority over all nicotine that isn't medical. Apparently there are proposals for postal bans, flavour bans, etc.

The European Commission has launched a public consultation on the revision of the Tobacco Products Directive (2001/37/EC). A wide range of views is sought on factors such as labelling and health warnings on tobacco packets and additives used as tobacco ingredients.

All interested parties are invited to submit their comments by 19 November 2010. Further details on the consultation can be found at:

ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/consultations/tobacco_cons_01_en.htm

The Tobacco Products Directive dates from 2001. It stipulates maximum limits in cigarettes for substances such as nicotine, tar and carbon monoxide. It also requires manufacturers to put textual health warnings on tobacco products and ban terms such as "light", "mild" or "low tar".

Through the revision of this Directive, the Commission seeks to regulate tobacco products on a uniform basis in all Member States, to improve awareness of dangers of tobacco use, to increase motivation to quit and to discourage initiation of smoking.

The public is invited to comment on problems that are identified in the public consultation, such as:

* Legislation in Member States varies widely across the EU and does not sufficiently address health and safety concerns relating to certain tobacco and nicotine products such as electronic cigarettes.
* Pictorial warnings are currently used in four Member States: Belgium, Romania, UK and Latvia. This means that the level of information for EU consumers about the dangers of smoking can vary considerably from one Member State to another.
* Regulation allowing or forbidding potentially harmful, addictive and attractive substances, including flavours, varies widely between Member States.
* Information on ingredients in tobacco is difficult to understand, compare and analyse at present. This is due to a variety of formats and reporting mechanisms in different Member States.


www.ensp.org/node/243

Lol, sorry Beeper, I should really resize that pic ... I'll go do that now

Lilac, those forum health threads are everywhere. The one at ECF was massive even before I left over a year ago. I'm too lazy to go around and collect all the symptoms so thought it would be best to ask folks to come to VN and report.