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Clones are a mixed bag, but can be great value especially if you are willing to tinker a little.

This nemesis is near perfect with the magnet upgrade and hits like a beast.

this stingray is almost as good, although the magnets need upgrading in order to avoid unlocked autofire.

this caravela has been a champ with my custom made spring upgrade... will NEVER autofire unless stupidly abused

This turtleship is good to go out of the box, but doesn't hit as hard as the others.

When it comes to regulatd mods, I have a hard time trusting clones. Genuine ones can be dodgy enough. I can remember my wife taking a puff on a sigeli 100W with a 0.5 ohm build dripper...the sigeli read it as 1.9 ohms and WTF...... not only really unpleasant but dangerous (treating a 0.5 ohm coil as a 1.9 ohm means the mod fires WAAAAAY to much power at it drying out wicks in an instant and going far over the stated watts limit and also stressing batteries.) The build proved stable on mechs, a smowell and various DMM tests so can only blame the sigeli for a regulation fart.

Put simply...clone yer mechs and attys, stay genuine for regulated mods. Some manufacturers such as Youdee sell cheaply enough that cloning isn't much of a financial winner for the user, compared to the originals quality, but other manufacturers (such as Viscous Ant - the do make the best gear in the market and are responsible for so many innovations) charge astronomical prices for their wares, and cloners can undercut them massively.

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I'm guessing that this will effectively kill all vaping as we know and love it, because of how one clause is worded.

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With the exception of disposable e-cigarettes, the product must have a mechanism for ensuring re-filling without leakage.

As far as I am aware, no refill system for any product on the market is fully leakproof. This goes for e-cigs, ink cartridges, car petrol tanks, and just about anything else. The 2ml tank is also a killer, although a well known one.

What I didn't know before is that all flavoured tobacco, papers, filters and cigarettes are also being ditched. Guess there are a few menthol smokers gonna be upset. Also, strange they make a big case about roll your own or hand rollling tobacco, and dont mention pipe tobacco.

Also on the topic of old analogs, they increase the min size to 20 cigs or 30g or rolling baccy. Don't these retards know that smokers don't self regulate based on how much they have smoked, but rather on how much they have left!!! Sure, a few less kids and people on low income will start smoking, but a hell of a lot of current smokers will have their habit made much worse by this move.

Any chance we could move the UK out of Europe and into Russia or China....seems they have more freedom these days.

10% Red statire 10% green steam, vg/pg/nic to your preference. igual

Yeah some juices seem to "unsteep" after a while. TJuice jack the ripple is a prime example. It peaks at about 4-8 weeks then seems to go stale. So I would tend to mix this at 30-50ml and always stay 1 bottle ahead. Others like JJ black gold or Capella cola I can mix multiple 200mls at a time.

Then again we have juices like red astaire that are fire and forget. We can mix when we are low and vape it right away. So yup, different batches sizes for different juices seems to be the way to go.

remember the AAEC discount code for chefs vapour as well, extra 10% off.

Worst experience I had with fasttech is a non vaping item, a USB memory stick, shaped like a cute girl in a Kimono for PinkyPuff . Was ships next day when ordered and still hadn't shipped 11 weeks later. Oh well, at least the refund paid for more krakens.


As for Epackets, I haven't seen much benefit from them as almost all my wait times have been from stocking,packing and internal shipping in China. Once sent abroad, singaopre post has been the fastest for us for a long time, and neve had any damaged goods arrive. China post has been as fast, but had many items arrived damaged from them.