Riva 1100

[chrisjw]

Feb 21, 2013 20:32:20 GMT mybad said:

Feb 21, 2013 20:26:58 GMT chrisjw said:

Just out of interest mybad, what vaping equipment do you use/have yourself?

I know where this one is going, dont waste your time chris

Sorry!!!!..........I'm asking you a civilised question.....I'm actually interested to know what you use for vaping, the same as I'm interested to know what everyone on here uses. I don't understand your attitude to my question..........

[chrisjw]

Feb 21, 2013 20:36:21 GMT MarkS said:

Thanks again Karma.

Hmm would it be worth me getting both?

Another quick question that may sound dumb, is an Ego-T the same as a Twist for a Riva?

Sorry to hijack your thread mybad, although I am still keen to know where the kits you speak of are available at the same price so I can recommend them to friends or at least give them the option as well as recommending the Riva.

As far as I'm aware Mark, the Spinner is a bigger battery...i.e. 1300 as opposed to 1100....I don't think there is any other difference, although I may be wrong

[kibbster]

Feb 21, 2013 20:30:32 GMT MarkS said:

Feb 21, 2013 20:24:44 GMT kibbster said:

Mark,
If you would like to give VV a go the Twist is an excellent start.
It's a bit longer than an 1100 Riva with a dial at the bottom to adjust the voltage from 3.2 (I think) to 4.8v
The higher the voltage dial the hotter the vapour, but go too high and the juice burns and tastes nasty.
Generally I find different juices burn at different temperatures so it's a bit of trial and error to find the voltage that's best for you.

Thank you for the advice kibbster.

No problem Mark
It's all a fun learning curve, I've tried a few things that I would recommend you save yourself from with voltages.
6v on a lavatube with a dual coil low resistance clearomiser was one of my specials lol (I think the LT limits the voltage if the head won't take it though, but damn was nasty!)
As well as the fact I seem to have a habit of popping attys that are LR with VV, I think I still have it too high sometimes.

I've got to admit though I like VV, it give you options if you like to change things around a bit or tweak your vaping experience.

[MarkS]

Thanks Chrisjw.

Another question, bigger battery means lasts longer right? Or is it more power? Or both?

[Karma]

An Ego is a battery similar to a Riva. Ego Ts were for a while sold as a kit with terrible tanks (the T) but the battery is just an ordinary ego! So, it's not vv !

[kibbster]

Feb 21, 2013 20:32:37 GMT Karma said:

Mark, i have a couple of Twists and they've been great!

This will sound like nit picking, but it really is difficult to see where you're positioning the dial on the Twist, the markings aren't at all clear. That, however, is my only gripe about them!

I've only just bought a Spinner, very happy with it and the dial is so much clearer! will I still sing it's praises in 6 months time, who knows?

I agree 100% about the twist dial.
I go by taste because I left my x-ray eyes back in my spandex superhero pants pocket!  

[Karma]

Feb 21, 2013 20:39:38 GMT MarkS said:

Thanks Chrisjw.

Another question, bigger battery means lasts longer right? Or is it more power? Or both?

Larger mAh ratings mean that the battery will last longer between charges!

to get more power, to give your vaping more oomph, that's where vv comes in 

[MarkS]

Cool makes more sense now.

Thank you.

so something like this?

www.vaporbreak.com/en/home/164-ego-c-twist-battery.html

[kibbster]

Feb 21, 2013 20:39:38 GMT MarkS said:

Thanks Chrisjw.

Another question, bigger battery means lasts longer right? Or is it more power? Or both?

More mah means longer between charges.

I think the bigger mods with separate batteries output higher amps so they fire up with more potency than the Egos etc.


*disclaimer*
I'm rubbish at electronics so I may be wrong about amps and pulse modulation etc.
*disclaimer*

[djs]

I know where you are coming from, but as a starting point it's a no brainer if you ask me.

Sometimes, I feel like the "king of kits" as I have bought so many, just to build up a collection and spares and all that.
I would say that the Riva kit for £32-£33 or something is excellent value, probably more so than some of the other I have purchased.

I know there are batteries with VV or higher mah from some Vendors for less, but are they a 100% "good" recommendation?
Joyetech set Voltage batt's are £15 at least for 1000mah....or they were last time I looked.
Rivas individually are £13 (ish).

2 batteries + a clearo and a charger already looks to have got up to £32-£33. So, it's like a free case, free cartos and a cone.

Like I said, I know what you're saying. Someone could potentially put together a similar kit for a bit less, but would it all come from the same vendor? Would a newbie know how to do such a thing?

if you are feeling like researching it, why not price up another kit. You could start a thread about "building a kit from scratch, and save money too!" I'd follow that thread....why not?

[Chrissie]

Feb 21, 2013 20:10:30 GMT mybad said:

Feb 21, 2013 19:36:10 GMT boo said:

I really dislike this, what seems to me vaping snobbery, regarding the latest gadgets, gizmos and must haves. I've got an eGo T and a Riva and nearly a year later im still using them, and very happily so. I've no inclination to move on to "better" things.

To some of us, they aren't a "beginners kit", they're our regular kits and we're very very happy with them thank you very much!

Boo, it has NOTHING to do with snobbery, I am happy you are happy with your ego T and your riva, but if in the first place you were introduced to something better and just as easy to use at the same price, you would be none the wiser and have exactly the same thoughts as you do now.

But you aren't coming up with anything better at the same price, Mybad.

Also, have you really checked out all the threads in the New Members board? Many folks are even daunted by an ego/Riva & some haven't even been able to get the hang of squeezing a bottle to get the juice out of it. Yes, VV & mods may be simple to you (as they mostly are to me) but I remember how confusing everything was 4 & half years ago - & that's when there was only a choice of about 3 different types of e-cigs.

Plus as others have said, newbies want to be recommended a kit from a good seller - most don't have a clue about all the different parts needed & get bamboozled/put off with too much choice.

[Bluefish]

I do agree with mybad to a certain extent, but only so far as i would change the riva batteries for ego ones, keep the rest of the kit as it is, just cos it seems to me that there is quite a high failure rate of the rivas, and god knows how many times the center pin issue comes up. The riva kit step daughter bought had center pin issues and after about what would only qualify as roughly 3 weeks daily use one of the batteries was dead, so ego's for riva's and you're sorted.

[mybad]

Hi Chris , I understand what your saying, what started off as a suggested opinion in the OP has turned out to be that I am anti Riva and don't know any better, anyway back to your question.

2 350 bats
2 650 bats
2 vv pass throus
2 900 twists
1 argento ( whatever its called, not used much )
2 MK1 lTs
1 mini v2 LT
1 SS Vamo

to many tops to list.

[OneDay]

It occurs to me that in eleven months of being on the forum and seeing the Riva kit recommended over and over, I have never once seen a member come back to complain that they have been given bad advice, that they dislike their Riva kit, or that they have been pressured into something unsuitable. If anyone reading this feels that way, please speak up and add to the discussion.

[Figgis]

It seems to me that anyone suggesting the Riva kit is not that great is missing a business opportunity if they have a better proposal. I can sort of see what mybad is saying with it being the only option suggested to newbies, but it does work (aside from the centre pin issue) and cuts through the fog of information to get someone vaping.

As far as I know, Jason at VapeEscape actually surveyed what people would want from a starter kit and came up with a winner. That's business, and good on him for doing it. I certainly think he's a great vendor, I didn't even feel the need to do a review after buying from him as his company is so well run. Rock solid, reliable and the benchmark as far as I can see.

There's no point grumbling it could be better and then come up with a proposal, which to use an analogy, sounds like how to rebuild a carburettor before you can drive, when all you want is a car that gets you from A to B.

To repeat my original point, the bar has been set very high to match that Riva kit for newcomers to vaping.