Riva 1100

[Deleted]

oh the bigger the better here! size DOES matter he he he

[Super-Shiny]

At the end of the day for £35.00 they are saving a fortune and saving their life, no VV in the world can beat that

[mybad]

Feb 21, 2013 21:30:19 GMT Figgis said:

Feb 21, 2013 21:17:23 GMT mybad said:

At the end of it all, all you more experienced vapors will understand what newbies will miss out on by not being able to adjust to that sweet spot we all know, simply by being stuck at a set voltage, now that is a real shame and could put SOME people off continuing with the new found vaping experience,as I have witnessed this myself. which maybe avoided by a SIMPLE vv device, come on its not really that hard, IS IT.

I think you misunderstand what many people who start vaping are trying to do. I've been vaping a month, have no intention of finding out "sweet-spots" or how good it can be. I merely want to stop smoking.

I haven't started vaping to get into some nirvana of nicotone consumption, I want to get off the tabs and ultimately vaping too if possible, that's my goal.

I may be alone, but I don't want to be spending a fortune on vaping as I see it as the first step in giving up nicotine. If I can do that on a small Riva battery (or my Ego-Twists) then I have no compunction to spend a fortune on anything else - that's not to dismiss those that do, but I don't want or need any of that to get me to give up the smokes.

that is a fair enough statement figgis, good luck to you

[mybad]

Feb 21, 2013 21:31:34 GMT Figgis said:

Feb 21, 2013 21:30:04 GMT mybad said:

I did, but it was to late they was not willing to try again.

Doesn't that tell you something ?

YES, BUT does it also tell you something ?

[Deleted]

i said that too figgis. 6 months and i'll stop vaping but i'm really getting into it in a small enough way and at my own plodding pace. its the lure of the shinies and different liquids. really enjoying it and knowing i'm a much healthier, less smellier person. i dont buy shoes or handbags, so this is my new obsession.

[Figgis]

Feb 21, 2013 21:36:58 GMT mybad said:

Feb 21, 2013 21:31:34 GMT Figgis said:

Doesn't that tell you something ?

YES, BUT does it also tell you something ?

It tells me that vaping can be dangerously addictive. Possibly something that can actually increase your nicotine consumption.

Perhaps, rather than suggesting what poor value a Riva kit is, the suggestion that you can only get the "best" from spending money off into the horizon should be something to be curtailed to newbies ?

I still find that approach quite intimidating. That somehow I'm missing out if I don't have some fancy device that costs a fair bit but will vape like a train. I don't actually want to vape all that much, I want something that I can cut down my nicotone, not use more.

As I say, I do have some sympathy for what you're saying, but I found the approach to spending money much more off-putting when I first started. In context, someone suggesting a 35 quid kit that delivered perfectly was a great recommendation.

[mybad]

Feb 21, 2013 21:47:46 GMT Figgis said:

Feb 21, 2013 21:36:58 GMT mybad said:

YES, BUT does it also tell you something ?

It tells me that vaping can be dangerously addictive. Possibly something that can actually increase your nicotine consumption.

Perhaps, rather than mentioning how bad a Riva kit is, the suggestion that you can only get the "best" from spending money off into the horizon should be something to be curtailed to newbies ?

I still find that approach quite intimidating. That somehow I'm missing out if I don't have some fancy device that costs a fair bit but will vape like a train. I don't actually want to vape all that much, I want something that I can cut down my nicotone, not use more.

As I say, I do have some sympathy for what you're saying, but I found the approach to spending money much more off-putting when I first started. In context, someone suggesting a 35 quid kit that delivered perfectly was a great recommendation.

Figgis, firstly if you go into something without knowing a little about it first ( nicotine consumption ) then you shouldn't do it in the first place, you have, secondly show me where I HAVE mentioned how bad a riva kit is ? you have obviously not taken in my concern on cost for better things . Also you missed my point in the other post, they tried did not like it ( a non vv ecig at a set voltage ) might have been a different matter it if was set at a different voltage with a vv, but no did not want to try again and stuck with the stinkies, get my point now ?.

[Malibu]

If I had got a spinner and a nova at first I probably wouldn't have bothered at all.
To me the liquid is tasteless through a Nova.
Your suggestion would mean either

a) I decided I didn't like vaping and didn't bother.
or
b) I would have to order yet again (and wait for it to arrive)to try cartos or other clearos.

I don't like vv's on anything other than the norm so wasted money when I could have bought basic ones cheaper.
The main point at the beginning is "can vaping replace smoking"
I think you need to find that out before trying "better devices" Btw I have "better devices" and don't like them.

[Figgis]

Feb 21, 2013 21:56:43 GMT mybad said:

Figgis, firstly if you go into something without knowing a little about it first ( nicotine consumption ) then you shouldn't do it in the first place, you have, secondly show me where I HAVE mentioned how bad a riva kit is ? you have obviously not taken in my concern on cost for better things .

I'm not sure on that. The way Vamo's/Pro-Varis/Shinies are suggested to new vapers is definitely made out to be the thing to do. There's not much concern for how much nicotine they use up no matter how much reading you do. It's all about how much vapour you get and how much "better" this device will be, which I think is quite an odd approach to use for people trying to give up ciggies. As I say, maybe it's just me.

Sorry if I put words in your mouth - didn't mean to do that, so apologies on that one. (I've edited that post)

[djs]

Wow, what a good discussion.

Tips for newbies are not always the same recommendations as things for non-newbies, wherever they are in the scheme of things.

I got utterly flamed and then totally nuked out of the game on UKV after a discussion about e-liquid, tobacco-style ones.
I never went back to that forum......

If had known about a Spinner or Twist in the early days, I wouldn't have bought a Riva, it's true.

However, Chrissie recomended a Riva kit to me when I was on another forum, then I migrated here. It would be fair to say that the idea of buying 2 Spinners @ £23 and then all the rest (£20?) would have put me off.

[mybad]

DJS, Had to laugh at the first half of your post,

[genguskhan]

I can understand what mybad was saying and he is 100% correct in saying that there is good kit out there if you look
I look at this way. Some people who take up vaping maybe not as good on the web as others and value getting a kit that everyone has and knows about, so when the have a problem or in need of advice there are plenty of people on hand to give advice whether they have been vaping for a week or a year.

Just my thoughts been along day goodnight peeps

[Karma]

Feb 21, 2013 21:47:46 GMT Figgis said:

 I want something that I can cut down my nicotone, not use more.

That's a fair point Figgis!

I started vaping as I knew for health reasons I had to do something, but I liked smoking and didn't really want to stop.  So vaping in all it's shiney loveliness totally fills that void for me!

Vaping isn't marketed as a means to stop smoking but many people want to use it for that reason, so their main concern is giving up the ciggies, and certainly in the early days of vaping they feel that they will cut down on that too and eventually be nicotine free.

These people aren't interested in vv, shiney mods, fancy atomisers.  They want an affordable solution which is a means to an end!

[mybad]

Feb 21, 2013 22:19:26 GMT Karma said:

Feb 21, 2013 21:47:46 GMT Figgis said:

 I want something that I can cut down my nicotone, not use more.

That's a fair point Figgis!

I started vaping as I knew for health reasons I had to do something, but I liked smoking and didn't really want to stop.  So vaping in all it's shiney loveliness totally fills that void for me!

Vaping isn't marketed as a means to stop smoking but many people want to use it for that reason, so their main concern is giving up the ciggies, and certainly in the early days of vaping they feel that they will cut down on that too and eventually be nicotine free.

These people aren't interested in vv, shiney mods, fancy atomisers.  They want an affordable solution which is a means to an end!

I am the same as you Kama on your first point, stop smoking before something really serious happens though smoking, not that damage has already been done in some form or another, hence the vaping game instead but I know I could not have carried on with a standard bat as it would not have given me the humph that I know I need to keep me on the vaping track, the only thing I am not into is having to do rewicking, tried it and cannot be arrsed with it, much easier for me to just replace the heads on the nova for the sake of a few pounds here and there.

[Raffles]

Mybad, I think you are bored tonight, and just want to stir something up to amuse you.

We all have to start somewhere, and if we keep reading and analysing all the advice we receive, we'd get nowhere, apart from a headache. For a newbie, as I was nearly a year ago, I just wanted something safe and that would do what I hoped it would do. I can't remember whether the Riva was recommended then, but I went for a similar kit in the eGo from LF. It fulfilled all my expectations, and I've since gone on to Spinners, WOW, how advanced is that! Have not gone near a 'fag' since day one.

We are not all looking for the vapeing 'holy grail' just something that works. We can all go on to more advance equipment later if that is what we want to do, and turn it into a hobby. Most of us just want a device that will cut down our smoking and help us to save health and money. The Riva and the eGo do just that, for me anyway.