UDT-L 510 Mod £9.99 at Vape Gear - Back in stock

[MarkS]

The 2 IMR's I already have are ZMAX IMR 750mah. I don't have a multimeter and they are currently used in my Lambo 4, which I was lead to believe is fine as it has it's own protection?

The lowest I run them down to is 3.6 and then recharge them as you notice a drop off in TH at that point. It only takes about 2 hours of use before the ZMAX IMR's get down to 3.6 as they only seem to charge to 4.0 before the green light comes on.

I have a enough kit not to have to use the UDT=L at all, but just wanted to give it a test drive and thought it would be good for Saturday until I realised the 18650's that I have coming are unprotected so would need to buy some protected ones if I want to use it in that mode.
Now knowing my 18350's are also unprotected I also need to buy a pair of protected ones at that size too.

I still use both my Riva 1100 batteries and the eGo Twist, but again I am charging all 3 of those batteries at least twice per day because I can notice the drop off in all of them and the vape just doesn't hit the spot after a couple of hours use on any of them.

Also I am a little surprised Keef doesn't stock protected batteries too. www.vapegear.co.uk/Accessories/cat1826720_1670353.aspx

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Mar 19, 2013 16:41:37 GMT MarkS said:

The 2 IMR's I already have are ZMAX IMR 750mah. I don't have a multimeter and they are currently used in my Lambo 4, which I was lead to believe is fine as it has it's own protection?

The lowest I run them down to is 3.6 and then recharge them as you notice a drop off in TH at that point. It only takes about 2 hours of use before the ZMAX IMR's get down to 3.6 as they only seem to charge to 4.0 before the green light comes on.

I have a enough kit not to have to use the UDT=L at all, but just wanted to give it a test drive and thought it would be good for Saturday until I realised the 18650's that I have coming are unprotected so would need to buy some protected ones if I want to use it in that mode.
Now knowing my 18350's are also unprotected I also need to buy a pair of protected ones at that size too.

I still use both my Riva 1100 batteries and the eGo Twist, but again I am charging all 3 of those batteries at least twice per day because I can notice the drop off in all of them and the vape just doesn't hit the spot after a couple of hours use on any of them.

Also I am a little surprised Keef doesn't stock protected batteries too. www.vapegear.co.uk/Accessories/cat1826720_1670353.aspx

Correct regarding the Lambo 4 but it is also regulated which keeps the voltage the same with each vape regardless of the remaining battery power. As the battery drains, the device will keep the voltage consistent until the battery runs low and the device turns itself off. The Lambo also has a resistance checker built in so you can use that to check your atties.

750mah is very low for 18650's or did you mean 1750mah (unless they are 18350's of course)? Either way I doubt they are much cop and you'd see a real benefit from a set of good batteries like www.apolloecigs.co.uk/product-p/ab18650.htm which are IMR or AW IMR or Efest IMR.

The ego twist is also regulated so you shouldn't notice any drop in performance as the battery level depletes as with the Lambo 4 ???

As previously said, you can use IMR's in a mech mod but you need to be careful.

This site is well worth having a read through www.torchythebatteryboy.com/p/imr-safe-chemistry-batteries.html

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You could argue imrs and mechs are safer with bought atties / cartos ... theoretically less short chances but I wouldnt 100% state that as fact.

[Karma]

Mar 19, 2013 16:12:57 GMT Adam78 said:

has anyone tried one of these?



It's the same size as the UDT-L in 18350 (this one only takes 18350)

Is that a mini Argento?  If so yes, I have one and it's a decent but basic mod

[MarkS]

Yeah sorry I didn't make it clearer my Lambo 4 is a mini so the batteries are 18350's the ZMAX IMR's and yes they are 750mah.
I also use the resistance checker, is that the only thing I'd need a multimeter for to check what the resistance of each atty is?

Definitely notice the difference in vape on both the lambo and the twist when they are running down. There is a distinct drop in the warmth of the vape. With the Lambo, if I quick change to the freshly charged battery the difference is clearly noticeable.
Definitely not all in my head. The difference is there.

Seen the batteries on apollo and refuse to pay £3.00+ for postage from London to London for two batteries. I don't want them hand delivered by helicopter. It has put me off going back to the Apollo site altogether. It's taking a liberty imo no matter what way you look at it, and I'd rather spend my money elsewhere. It's also a reason I won't use Liberty Flights no matter how good or rare their juices are. Not due to postage but because of their pricing. Liberty is clearly the clue in the name. I'm not tight by any means, but I won't give money to anyone when I feel it's being extorted from me. To much competition out there for me to feel the need to give it to them.

I've also read Torchy's site and those graphs mean absolutely nothing to me and the jargon just goes right over my head. I also find it a bit confusing where people rave about torchy's advice regarding batteries but are quick to ignore it regarding chargers. i.e. he says Trustfire make decent chargers.

I am taking all this advice on board and appreciate it Simate even if I still don't really get it, and will upgrade the batteries and start to get some decent ones. If I was to do all that right now it would be a toss up between that or going to the meet on Saturday so have no choice but to make do with what I have at the moment.

Sorry if I am ranting and it's not at anyone on here because as I say you and the others have been more than helpful, it's just I really do have a headache now and all over buying a couple of batteries. It's ridiculous and unjust that to make it less difficult you have to pay way over the odds.

EDIT to say: I don't build Atty's, they are all pre bought and also to ask again...what's a Kick?

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yep the resistance checker is fine and with pre-made stuff, the risk of atty shorts are reduced I would say. To be honest, I reckon you'll be fine with your batteries for an evening in the pub ... the UDT is vented well and as long as the button isn't held down in your pocket

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Mar 19, 2013 17:38:13 GMT MarkS said:

EDIT to say: I don't build Atty's, they are all pre bought and also to ask again...what's a Kick?

Already answered in post #97 and #98

[Adam78]

Mar 19, 2013 17:30:29 GMT Karma said:

Mar 19, 2013 16:12:57 GMT Adam78 said:

has anyone tried one of these?



It's the same size as the UDT-L in 18350 (this one only takes 18350)

Is that a mini Argento?  If so yes, I have one and it's a decent but basic mod

Thanks Karma yep I think it's the same , I've also seen it called the "Squire" and just "Mini Mod"

As you have 1 could you please tell me if it has a nice clicky button and does the finish on the body of the mod stay looking ok or rub off over time?

I noticed that BritVapes are selling it as an "Argento" but it's more expensive than where I'll be getting it from, BV also have the UDT-L but they call it the "Argento-L" and are selling that for £24.99

[Karma]

Yes, the button is nice and clicky! I've just checked the finish and as it's not a polished finish it still looks like new! It's been carted about in my handbags and car and just thrown into my vaping spares box and it still seems fine

[robby]

Ref the springs, a lot of the gold coloured ones are literally that, gold plated normal springs. A spring getting hot can usually be fixed by cleaning all parts in contact with the tube with steel wool or fine emery paper. The problem is usually caused by oxidation on the steel spring. I have done this a few times, I put a smear of Vaseline or similar after cleaning it to keep it clean and stop it from oxidating. Before rubbing down and smearing (barely visible) the resistance reading can be over 1 ohm, sometimes much worse, and going up and down like a fiddler`s elbow. After cleaning as suggested you get a steady reading of less than .1 ohm.

So what happens with a spring that has a resistance reading of 1.4 ohms and is connected to a 1.4 atomiser is that it will draw as much current and power as the atomiser which will cause the voltage left for the atomiser to halve. The spring will get incredibly hot when the fire button is pressed. If the spring is cleaned or you have a gold plated one, the voltage lost on the spring will only be a tenth of what it was before, leaving over 4 volts for the atomiser which is where you want it. I have no doubt that people will disagree with what I have said, but it really is simple ohms law. The spring has turned into a resistance as big as the resistance of the atty, burning the same amount of power (unless you get the brillo out and give it a clean lol)

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well.... i had to and i did
i shall have to self ban myself from this section of the forum at this rate

[chrisss]

I bought a second one of these and the bottom cap gets warm compared to the first one even when using the same battery and atty. I will change the springs on both as soon as ivapour-elixir gets the silver bullet springs back in stock. Can anyone suggest anything else I should look to do?

[robby]

Mar 20, 2013 13:26:44 GMT chrisss said:

I bought a second one of these and the bottom cap gets warm compared to the first one even when using the same battery and atty. I will change the springs on both as soon as ivapour-elixir gets the silver bullet springs back in stock. Can anyone suggest anything else I should look to do?

Have a look at my post up the page, worth a try, nothing to lose

[chrisss]

Mar 20, 2013 13:29:03 GMT robby said:

Mar 20, 2013 13:26:44 GMT chrisss said:

I bought a second one of these and the bottom cap gets warm compared to the first one even when using the same battery and atty. I will change the springs on both as soon as ivapour-elixir gets the silver bullet springs back in stock. Can anyone suggest anything else I should look to do?

Have a look at my post up the page, worth a try, nothing to lose

I'll give it a go robby

[robby]

Brillo pad or fine sandpaper at the points of contact where the spring touches the end cap Good luck.