Help - VG diluted with Vodka.

[mike weaver93]

Hi Everyone,

Just mixed 40ml vodka with Boots glycerin 200ml.

Been vaping with a menthol mix, the throat hit is way too strong for me.(its not my recipe, as i've previously used this before)

Should I dilute the glycerin even further,to reduce the throat hit? - would distilled water do the job?

Cheers

Mike

[Jen]

I dilute my VG with DIW at 10%, so I'd add more glycerin (another 200ml for 10%) if I were you and see how you get on. DIW does indeed do the job, but I don't think further dilution is going to do you too many favours, might make the juice too thin

[mike weaver93]

Apr 23, 2013 10:51:53 GMT Jen said:

I dilute my VG with DIW at 10%, so I'd add more glycerin (another 200ml for 10%) if I were you and see how you get on. DIW does indeed do the job, but I don't think further dilution is going to do you too many favours, might make the juice too thin

Thanks Jen,

At the moment, Ive got 200ml of glycerin, and 50ml of vodka. so in total 250ml.

so would you add a further amount 20ml of glycerin? 

Where do you get your DIW from?

Cheers

Mike

[4madcats]

Halfords or any other good car accessories shop will sell DIW, usually £1 + pennies for 1L

[mike weaver93]

Apr 23, 2013 11:21:01 GMT 4madcats said:

Halfords or any other good car accessories shop will sell DIW, usually £1 + pennies for 1L

thanks,

thought i read somewhere,its not safe.

[giles]

I don't use de-ionised (or distilled) water myself, but if you do there is a case for getting food grade. The Halford's stuff is chemically the same but not guaranteed to be bacteria free. Food grade is still very cheap.

I put 10% vodka in the VG, like Jen so I'd add about 250ml of glycerine to your 200/50 mix. That is a hell of a lot of VG so I guess in practice you'll separate your mix into e.g. two halves, add 125ml to one of them and see how it goes.

Next time obviously use water for a lower throat hit, but also maybe make a small quantity and try it before doing a big batch.

[mike weaver93]

Apr 23, 2013 11:46:35 GMT giles said:

I don't use de-ionised (or distilled) water myself, but if you do there is a case for getting food grade. The Halford's stuff is chemically the same but not guaranteed to be bacteria free. Food grade is still very cheap.

I put 10% vodka in the VG, like Jen so I'd add about 250ml of glycerine to your 200/50 mix. That is a hell of a lot of VG so I guess in practice you'll separate your mix into e.g. two halves, add 125ml to one of them and see how it goes.

Next time obviously use water for a lower throat hit, but also maybe make a small quantity and try it before doing a big batch.

Cheers Giles.

So, I buy another 200ml VG from Boots- then pour the 250 ml mix of vg & vodka into a large jug, then add 125ml of VG
into the same jug.

Then decant the 375ml into a couple of bottles?

Cheers

Mike

[giles]

No Mike - you have twice as much alcohol in your mix as you want, so to fix it you need to have equal quantities of your mix and glycerine.

So, put half (125ml) of your mix in the jug, and add 125ml of glycerine.

Or, put 10ml of it in a bottle, add 10ml of glycerine, and see how it works.

[mike weaver93]

Thanks Giles, I'll get off to Boots.

Do any of the supermarkets sell distilled or deioinised water?

Cheers mate

[giles]

Apr 23, 2013 12:34:43 GMT mike weaver93 said:

Thanks Giles, I'll get off to Boots.

Do any of the supermarkets sell distilled or deioinised water?

Cheers mate

Not to my knowledge, but it is worth asking in your local chemist (but if it is Boots, don't tell them what it is really for - if asked say it is for diluting food flavouring or something).

[kurotoshiro]

Something I keep meaning to ask, and this thread has reminded me ... Does the quality of vodka matter?

[Perpetua]

Apr 23, 2013 13:24:26 GMT kurotoshiro said:

Something I keep meaning to ask, and this thread has reminded me ... Does the quality of vodka matter?

I just use Tesco Value Kuro . . . if you wanted to push the boat out a little more, there's no reason not to. But I find the Value quite good enough.

[bryan123456]

Vodka adds throat hit and at over 5% its very fierce. If you use Halfords deionised water its best to boil it first. To reduce the fierceness of the throat hit you need to get the final content below 5%... VG starts to get very watery if its total aqueous and/or vodka content is above 20%. Hope this helps.

[mike weaver93]

Apr 23, 2013 13:27:15 GMT Perpetua said:

Apr 23, 2013 13:24:26 GMT kurotoshiro said:

Something I keep meaning to ask, and this thread has reminded me ... Does the quality of vodka matter?

I just use Tesco Value Kuro . . . if you wanted to push the boat out a little more, there's no reason not to. But I find the Value quite good enough.

I think my problem stems from using 'Absolut' Vodka 

[bryan123456]

Its the alcohol that creates the throat hit - vodka is used because of its purity / lack of sugars - Americans use pure grain alcohol. The higher the proof, the more potential for TH.