Teeth and vaping

[womble]

I would write to the people that make your usual juice and see what they say about sugar in the juice.

[kibbster]

I've never heard of any specific liquids causing teeth or gum problems.
I know ex smokers do have gum problems but that's not because of liquids that's because of the damage done by smoking to the gums blood supply over the years.

[upright]

I don't have a usual juice, I only just began vaping a week ago.I'm experimenting at the moment with juices from various suppliers.

[collie2011]

I believe most of the juices use sweeteners. It's normal for someone who has quit smoking to have bleeding gums and issues in your mouth, the same as you can start coughing up tons of yack. It is your body trying to heal from the crap in the cigarettes.

[markm]

Logically it will do less damage to your teeth than a cup of black coffee with sweetener - ie precious little.
Grinding your teeth because your worrying about it will do more damage - try and relax a bit more.

[fiddles]

May 14, 2013 10:18:57 GMT markm said:

Logically it will do less damage to your teeth than a cup of black coffee with sweetener - ie precious little.
Grinding your teeth because your worrying about it will do more damage - try and relax a bit more.

Best bit of advice in thread

Just one question though was we all that concerned about our teeth when we was smoking ?

[lynxkat]

Just copied this from the other forum link, seems the best answer on a very long thread.

www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/26903-tooth-decay-11.html

"Guys, as I said before I'm a dentist (take that for what it's worth!), and while I don't want to dismiss the possibility of VG or vaping in general as being a potential contributor to tooth decay, I think it's a little early to get too excited about it.

Tooth decay is a multifactorial condition, meaning that there is usually not just one cause. VG may be a contributing factor, and may increase the risk of tooth decay, but I doubt it is a causative factor by itself. Just because you are vaping and a cavity shows up doesn't necessarily mean it was the VG that caused it. I have seen non-vapers suddenly get cavities out of the blue with no perceptible change in hygiene or food/drink. Sometimes that is just the way it goes. There's so many potential causes of decay, and most people are aware of the obvious ones (soda, sugar in coffee, etc.) but there are plenty of other things we all do or ingest on a daily basis that can contribute to cavities.

I pretty much vape only 100% VG juices from Alien Visions, and have been doing so for over a year, and I haven't had any issues with my teeth. And I probably get my teeth cleaned less than most of you, believe it or not!!

Of course, everyone is different, and what may be a risk factor for some may not be a risk factor for others. So proceed with caution, but don't get too worked up about it at this point. Do whatever you can to decrease your risk factor of decay, regardless of whether or not you vape. Anectodal evidence can be helpful, but doesn't really prove anything. So until we have some proof, keep vaping."

[suede]

Everything you put in your mouth has an adverse effect on teeth.Only time will tell with vaping but it is a fact that smoking causes many mouth problems.

[4madcats]

If you check the safety data sheets for CCW that Frogster posted you can see that the total sugars in those flavourings are nil, it's actual 8th from the bottom in the same row as salmonella (absent) & 2 rows up from that carbohydrate is listed as nil, so I would assume if any sweetner is used it definitely isn't suger

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/13636/cupcake-world-specification-safety-sheets

Although VG is sweet this is what I pulled from this site, & don't forget we are vaping it not swilling around our mouth like a can of full fat coke, or even tea or coffee that contains suger.

Vegetable glycerin used in food applications is USP grade or over 99% pure and has a sweet taste. Vegetable glycerin metabolizes differently than sugar and is used in low carbohydrate foods for sweetness and moisture. Unlike sugar, glycerin does not contribute to tooth decay.

www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/what-is-vegetable-glycerin/

How does smoking compare to vaping in general for your teeth & gums . . . well for a start you'er no longer inhaling carbon monoixde which can reduce the oxygen in your blood & obviously your teeth & gums need oxygen just like an other organ . . here's a wee extract from the full link below.

Carbon monoxide in cigarettes reduces the absorption of oxygen into the blood stream through the lungs. It also reduces the oxygen carrying capacity of red blood cells. When tissues in the body do not receive a continuous and adequate supply of oxygen they become starved of oxygen and begin to suffocate, malfunction, and then die.

www.carbon-monoxide-survivor.com/carbon-monoxide-in-cigarettes.html

So although nicotine can still cause some restriction of the arteries you still reducing any potential harm by swapping to vaping.

I think one of the biggest downsides re your mouth is saliva reduction (dry mouth) caused by e-liquid, saliva has natural substances in it that help to reduce bacteria in your mouth & keep it under control . . an easy way to combat that is chew suger free gum on a regular basis.

But for me it's a no brainer, would rather lose all my teeth then carry on putting myself in harm's way from cancer & heart disease.

[Magsvape]

May 14, 2013 11:09:40 GMT fiddles said:

May 14, 2013 10:18:57 GMT markm said:

Logically it will do less damage to your teeth than a cup of black coffee with sweetener - ie precious little.
Grinding your teeth because your worrying about it will do more damage - try and relax a bit more.

Best bit of advice in thread

Just one question though was we all that concerned about our teeth when we was smoking ?

Speaking personally, the answer is no. I probably was a bit lackadaisical with my oral hygiene when I smoked, probably due to the fact that smoking restricts the blood flow to the gums, hiding the symptoms of gum disease until it is too late and your teeth start getting loose and eventually fall out.

I have been vaping for nearly a year and have gone through quite a dramatic change in my oral health care due to problems with bleeding gums which had started to recede. I also worried that it was vaping that was causing the problems or at least making them worse. After another visit to the hygienist I am reassured that what is happening is caused by a direct result of 37 years of smoking. Seemingly your gums can take about a year to return to the health of a non-smoker and during that time you can experience all sorts of problems while the gums recover from the barrage they have taken whilst on the stinkies.

I can definitely see a vast improvement in mine in the last few months and my vaping habits have not changed (pretty much constant, he he). The bleeding has not completely stopped but is minimal and only when I use a powerful airflosser, my gums over 4 crowns I have in the front have stopped receding and they are now a very healthy pink. I honestly think that vaping has saved my teeth and I will keep them longer now than if I had continued to smoke.

Regular routine of flossing, brushing, corsodyl mouth wash, drinking lots of water and I can say although I am not quite there yet, my teeth and gums are the healthiest they have been for years.  Also highly recommend a dental hygienist appointment for any one with problems, mine worked wonders.  

[monty]

Nicotine constricts arteries which restricts blood flow to the gums and will contribute to gum disease.

[griffon10]

we are all going to die so get used to the idea
nothing lasts forever

[Karma]

May 14, 2013 17:20:58 GMT monty said:

Nicotine constricts arteries which restricts blood flow to the gums and will contribute to gum disease.

Indeed, but it is still preferable to smoking tobacco as we are not inhaling Carbon Monoxide and a cocktail of other poisons, so perhaps not as good as giving up all together but vaping has to be a damage reduction option regarding teeth problems  and gum disease  

[kibbster]

May 14, 2013 17:20:58 GMT monty said:

Nicotine constricts arteries which restricts blood flow to the gums and will contribute to gum disease.

IIRC it's a temporary restriction lasting a few minutes. it raises blood pressure as well briefly (probably related.)

[Karma]

May 14, 2013 17:25:32 GMT griffon10 said:

we are all going to die so get used to the idea
nothing lasts forever

Life is dangerous, nobody gets out alive