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Post by ian on Jun 25, 2011 0:47:45 GMT
I agree Curtis,nice one to appear bauway when the damage is already done > Are you the ones that also make the b*llocks EXO18650 that has the same problem shorting with an LR atty > ????? These products are not fit for purpose and should have been released with a warning not to use LR atomisers with them.
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Post by River on Jun 25, 2011 8:19:49 GMT
Agree 100% The BW came with no instructions either if it did it would be a good idea to state this or at least tell your suppliers. I had no idea that they wouldnt take LRs
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Post by VE Jason on Jun 25, 2011 8:21:29 GMT
Not sure I would be 100% that is actually a Bauway Rep. If they state their name it may be different.
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Post by Perpetua on Jun 25, 2011 9:04:57 GMT
I'd agree Jason - other than Bauway's IP being of a Chinese location, there's nothing to say it's Bauway themselves.
Hopefully everyone has now had their issues resolved and Suppliers are taking the matter up with the Company concerned, as it seems, to me anyway, given the popularity of LR atomisers a strange thing to produce a big battery mod that can't handle them.
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Post by camperman on Jun 25, 2011 20:33:04 GMT
i emailed bauway about all the complaints ive had and pointed them to this very thread in my email so thats probobly why they have made an appearance theyve also told me in no uncertain terms through paypal i will not get a refund. i also told them they should of had a warning on their website about them not running certain types of atomizer like i did on my website as soon as i found out they wouldnt, the warning i got in an email from them after many complaints to them was this, i have confirmed with our engineer . because the battery is the lithium battery , so it cannot fit for low atomizerthis firm has cost me dearly and has probobly now put me out of buisness with the ammount of money i have lost and customer trust so i urge anybody thinking of buying anything bauway to give them a wide birth untill they get their act together and start producing goods fit for sale. thank you bauway for your false advertising NOT >
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Post by camperman on Jun 25, 2011 20:40:31 GMT
whilst im on heres a snippet of the paypal complaint and what i have asked of them so you all know what sort of company they are to deal with.
mark
i do not want these goods replacing as they are of inferior quality one that was sold has come back faulty and also possed a risk of fire with the faulty button
bauway
—A“üu‘§it is not true for it, please make it clear, it is not truth, never happened. if you drive the car out of speed and crashed, the car maker should compenstae it???
go figure that one out what a car has to do with it ???
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Post by curtisdon1 on Jun 25, 2011 21:33:48 GMT
What a joke, They haven't even got the decency to admit they were at fault, SCUM!
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Post by ian on Jun 26, 2011 0:14:53 GMT
I see another UKV member has had exactly the same problem as me with the EXO18650,switch gone on it also.He is trying to mod it,anyone wanna have a go with mine?
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Post by Chrissie on Jun 26, 2011 9:15:41 GMT
That is dreadful Mark Bauway should recall all of them & compensate you & the other suppliers that stocked them.
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Post by camperman on Jun 26, 2011 9:27:03 GMT
I see another UKV member has had exactly the same problem as me with the EXO18650,switch gone on it also.He is trying to mod it,anyone wanna have a go with mine? a company called kingera make the EXO kits ian not bauway
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Post by itsmeitis on Jun 26, 2011 15:24:42 GMT
good luck mark & well done with the significant post here from bauway. that has to be the most unusual thing that a company of their standing would choose to do.
i expect bauway would probarbly seize on particular announcements within these threads to dispute a paypal claim aginst them, and i worry that paypal would be forced to view your personal dismantling as negative interferance with their products.
obvious concerns exist in the effect this episode has on your business, but i think that you may be over worried and overestimating the cost in comparison to the business as a whole. i would guess takings from the number of orders that have been fulfilled for seperate orders, or non-510n stock, would provide ample profit to absorb the setback currently posed by the 510n.
you should certainly exercise every right you have to persue this in full. hopefully bauway will recognise the negative impact that misrepresentation provides, and will quietly settle this in a appropriate terms.
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Post by camperman on Jun 26, 2011 16:06:51 GMT
good luck mark & well done with the significant post here from bauway. that has to be the most unusual thing that a company of their standing would choose to do. i expect bauway would probarbly seize on particular announcements within these threads to dispute a paypal claim aginst them, and i worry that paypal would be forced to view your personal dismantling as negative interferance with their products. obvious concerns exist in the effect this episode has on your business, but i think that you may be over worried and overestimating the cost in comparison to the business as a whole. i would guess takings from the number of orders that have been fulfilled for seperate orders, or non-510n stock, would provide ample profit to absorb the setback currently posed by the 510n. you should certainly exercise every right you have to persue this in full. hopefully bauway will recognise the negative impact that misrepresentation provides, and will quietly settle this in a appropriate terms. i think you would be very supprised on how little profit their is in ecig parafanalia unless sold in great numbers which i dont do,after origonal purchase/shipping/duty/tax/paypal fees/uk p+p and i dont mind giving a few examples, i make about £1 on a packet of clearomizers and about £7 on a BW510N because i only buy in small ammounts, i run this more as a hobby than anything else which helps pay for my own equipment and lets me try out new parafanalia that i otherwise would not be able to do. maybe the guys who do it as a full time buisness make a bit more with bigger buying power but i dont have a great turn over on a weekly basis so cant order in great numbers especially with the ecig market churning out new "must have" items virtually on a daily basis.
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Post by itsmeitis on Jun 26, 2011 16:44:38 GMT
i think you would be very supprised on how little profit their is in ecig parafanalia unless sold in great numbers which i dont do,after origonal purchase/shipping/duty/tax/paypal fees/uk p+p and i dont mind giving a few examples, i make about £1 on a packet of clearomizers and about £7 on a BW510N because i only buy in small ammounts, i run this more as a hobby than anything else which helps pay for my own equipment and lets me try out new parafanalia that i otherwise would not be able to do. maybe the guys who do it as a full time buisness make a bit more with bigger buying power but i dont have a great turn over on a weekly basis so cant order in great numbers especially with the ecig market churning out new "must have" items virtually on a daily basis. i see from the comparisons that you give here that the profits are less than might usually be expected but i suppose they are netted after the liability insurances, taxes and so on. i still believe that the profits are ample though as the amount of orders accumulate to quite a tidy profit for you in context of the short timeframe. i noticed the small amount of 510n's purchased so far do equate to much less than the profits as mentioned and i think you will easily sustain any losses and comfortably uphold your business. i dont think you have any need to contemplate giving up the business, as takings are substantial as is its future potential.
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Post by james481538 on Jun 26, 2011 21:12:29 GMT
You raised one interesting point. Liability insurance. Although some folks sell for fun including mods for sale. But what is the restriction in the industry with liability insurance. Not knocking camperman but what if some serious damage was caused he would be liable and by the look of it the supplier would bail out if a claim was made. And if someone wanted to they would sue you 1st regardless of the originating supplier. A forum mate could fully expect some compensation if damage was caused even if the sale was to help with cheap kit. Don't get me wrong here I know insurance costs and if you broadcast you have it some would try and take the P. But how as customers do we know who has it? Or do we just take it for granted every vendor will?
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Post by l15a on Jun 26, 2011 21:13:18 GMT
Bauway you are *%@"***
Sorry but completely wrong of them, it's a defective product that could be very dangerous. I might have to send them an email to air my views!
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