Updates on Plenary

[fred]

Oct 8, 2013 20:51:40 GMT dnglos said:

Oct 8, 2013 19:57:12 GMT barrynorton said:

I should. But I do enough of this at work (of which I've a lot right now )

I'm off work this week, so I could give it a go. Can I upload a spreadsheet on here?

Use googledocs 

[Bluefish]

Oct 8, 2013 20:50:37 GMT barrynorton said:

Oct 8, 2013 20:45:40 GMT dnglos said:

Thanks kailey. Looks like my UKIP MEP voted for both amendments

As we said above, that doesn't make sense. 71 said all e-cigarettes should be subject to medical regulation, 170 said only those above 30mg should.

Hey if you have a vote it would be a shame to waste it

[4madcats]

Oct 8, 2013 20:57:35 GMT Bluefish said:

Oct 8, 2013 20:50:37 GMT barrynorton said:

As we said above, that doesn't make sense. 71 said all e-cigarettes should be subject to medical regulation, 170 said only those above 30mg should.

Hey if you have a vote it would be a shame to waste it

Oh Dear   sure as hell doesn't bode well if they ever did make it into government.  

[Bluefish]

True 4madcats it does seem that most of these MP's MEP's don't have a friggin clue

[jakethevape]

Oct 8, 2013 21:08:56 GMT 4madcats said:

Oct 8, 2013 20:57:35 GMT Bluefish said:

Hey if you have a vote it would be a shame to waste it

Oh Dear   sure as hell doesn't bode well if they ever did make it into government.  

What did you honestley expect common sense in the EU?

I have banned myself from any political debates so I will keep my comment to that

[4madcats]

Oct 8, 2013 21:13:57 GMT Bluefish said:

True 4madcats it does seem that most of these MP's MEP's don't have a friggin clue

Let's face it, none of them of have short term memory longer then a goldfish once they get into power, & even long term memory doesn't extend beyond 4yrs, unless they win the next election, & then it's case of opps s**t we got to make these promises good . . . . what were they again . . . did we say that

[dnglos]

Oct 8, 2013 19:34:41 GMT barrynorton said:

Awesome. Someone needs to extract this and make a mash-up with visualisations along national and party/political dimensions.

Does this work?

docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx2uUXYa0IZGUi1NakhZcUt1T1U/edit?usp=sharing

[Phoenixflame (Julie)]

Yes it does.

[barrynorton]

Fantastic, there you go - for London:

Conservative - great
Green & Labour - bastards
UKIP - duuuuuuh

[kailey]

Thanks for doing the spreadsheet, dnglos.

[dnglos]

Oct 8, 2013 23:00:57 GMT kailey said:

Thanks for doing the spreadsheet, dnglos.

kailey You're welcome

[Jaguar7777]

The UK government will probably opt out of any EU legislation as it usually does. In it's own time it will make a decision based on what it thinks is right for the people of the United Kingdom.

Yeah ..... right.


I'm not celebrating.


Jag. (The hammer will fall ..... eventually.)

[OneDay]

a It's interesting to see from the individual votes that almost without exception the politicians voted along party lines . That makes me wonder whether our lobbying and pressure actually had any impact at all

[kibbster]

Oct 8, 2013 23:57:44 GMT Jaguar7777 said:

The UK government will probably opt out of any EU legislation as it usually does. In it's own time it will make a decision based on what it thinks is right for the people of the United Kingdom.

Yeah ..... right.


I'm not celebrating.


Jag. (The hammer will fall ..... eventually.)

It's closer to travel to to protest
And we have a direct line to the government and we've shown MPs will listen to us.
We can even go and visit our MPs in their surgeries.

Finally it's easier to launch legal action as every single time someone has tried to make E-cigs medicines and it's been challenged, the challenge wins.
that includes in the EU yesterday.

I don't rate the government's chances tbh

[kibbster]

Oct 9, 2013 0:06:48 GMT OneDay said:

:)It's interesting to see from the individual votes that almost without exception the politicians voted along party lines . That makes me wonder whether our lobbying and pressure actually had any impact at all

Before the campaign they were all against us.
The Lib Dems and Tories are now on our side.
Labour there's no ******* hope for I'm afraid, but we'll still bug the crap out of labour MPs but mainly just for pleasure