a solution to "the clones"

[hiddenusername]

but it's the same thing, it is organised theft.

theft to order.

[fiddles]

Oct 26, 2013 18:13:36 GMT hiddenusername said:

but it's the same thing, it is organised theft.

theft to order.

I don't see it as theft more like Healthy Competition
like I said before if they didn't want to be so greedy with pricing then there wouldn't be this huge price difference so people would then more likely buy genuine

[Karma]

Surely it's much the same as Kelloggs Cornflakes v Lidl Cornflakes ???

Kelloggs Cornflakes are a bit nicer but if I'm skint I'll buy the Lidl ones. Kelloggs don't seem to be suffering due to cheaper versions of their cereals

[giles]

Patent infringement is illegal, but it isn't theft. I agree that clones which claim to be the real thing are a menace (and anyone who does it is guilty of laws other than patent infringement), but someone who makes a good quality cheap copy and says "buy my copy, it is cheaper and just as good" isn't stealing anything. They are actually helping the development process, and making high quality vaping available to more people.

Patents create monopolies, and monopolies are always bad news for the consumer.

[Super-Shiny]

It's a dog eat dog world out there and we all have to just live with it and the genuine makers know this, it's all down to the buyer, if he/she wants a clone or a genuine product it's their choice.

Don't think they will be out of pocket that much as they probably know that as said above if he/she wants a clone or a genuine product it's their choice.

On a different note look at the Russian 91%, it's just as good as the Kayfun lite if not maybe even better due to the 510 pin and airflow control but at the same time not much difference in price but it goes to show that you can improve on something without going higher in price than the original.

[hiddenusername]

healthy competition . . . . . .

geezus



out of interest, have you ever stolen anything from someone else? it just seems your attitude towards this lends itself to, well, you get the gist.

[hiddenusername]

Oct 26, 2013 18:27:51 GMT Karma said:

Surely it's much the same as Kelloggs Cornflakes v Lidl Cornflakes ???

Kelloggs Cornflakes are a bit nicer but if I'm skint I'll buy the Lidl ones. Kelloggs don't seem to be suffering due to cheaper versions of their cereals

nope

kelloggs didnt design the cornflake

lidl cornflakes are not a exact copy they are just a similar design, like a nemesis and a chi you, both mods, different in design.

[fiddles]

Oct 26, 2013 18:29:27 GMT hiddenusername said:

healthy competition . . . . . .

geezus



out of interest, have you ever stolen anything from someone else? it just seems your attitude towards this lends itself to, well, you get the gist.

When you resort to personal insults (calling me a thief ) you have lost the argument

I do not need to justify myself to you

[Karma]

Oct 26, 2013 18:32:05 GMT hiddenusername said:

Oct 26, 2013 18:27:51 GMT Karma said:

Surely it's much the same as Kelloggs Cornflakes v Lidl Cornflakes ???

Kelloggs Cornflakes are a bit nicer but if I'm skint I'll buy the Lidl ones. Kelloggs don't seem to be suffering due to cheaper versions of their cereals

nope

kelloggs didnt design the cornflake

lidl cornflakes are not a exact copy they are just a similar design, like a nemesis and a chi you, both mods, different in design.

Indeed, but they're still Cornflakes or Weetabix etc! An atty is a bit metal and wick 



 Not everyone can afford to spend as fortune on vaping, if someone can buy a clone first to get an idea as to whether it suits them, then I think that's great.  The clones in a roundabout way probably generate more sales of the real deal in the long run

[hiddenusername]

my problem is the fakes Karma

its like kelloggs copying weetabix, using their logo and box and selling it a weetabix.

obviously wouldnt happen to kelloggs as they would sink them so in this instance its the little guy who is getting screwed over, the one man band mod makers like caravela etc.

[hiddenusername]

Oct 26, 2013 18:36:01 GMT fiddles said:

Oct 26, 2013 18:29:27 GMT hiddenusername said:

healthy competition . . . . . .

geezus



out of interest, have you ever stolen anything from someone else? it just seems your attitude towards this lends itself to, well, you get the gist.

When you resort to personal insults (calling me a thief ) you have lost the argument

I do not need to justify myself to you

[fiddles]

Oct 26, 2013 18:37:56 GMT hiddenusername said:

I have a policy not to feed trolls so I will no longer be replying to your immature posts

I am outta here

[dreamylittledream]

Please do not bring the tedious clone arguments here, one of the things I really love about AAEC is most of us here are not the slightest bit precious about what we vape - the last thing we need is getting into the ridicuousness that certain other forums have resorted to.

Copywrite infringement is not theft - much as the media companies would also like us to believe - I would never spend over £100 on an atomizer but I may well spend £20 - the original maker has lost nothing if I buy a clone

[Karma]

Oct 26, 2013 18:37:56 GMT hiddenusername said:

its the little guy who is getting screwed over, the one man band mod makers like caravela etc.

I don't think so.  The whole clone discussion etc creates more advertising for the real thing.

there is no such thing as bad publicity 

[hiddenusername]

Oct 26, 2013 18:45:54 GMT Karma said:

there is no such thing as bad publicity 

but there is such thing as theft.