Advice request on moving to new system

[frances]

Hi all. I'm new to this forum and have been vaping for a couple of months. I got hooked into Jac vapour (I'll explain the hooked bit later) and started with their PCC VIP kit before moving to the crystal mini (seemed to burn every liquid) and latterly their vv Vgo. So as you can see they've had quite a bit of money from me already. Whilst the vv helps with the burning issue (because I can turn it down) I am really disappointed to find that I can only buy tanks and carts from Jac as their batteries are incompatible with any other system. This is where I feel I've been hooked! So I'm looking to buy from another supplier and start again.  Of course I will keep the current set up until the batteries pack up- I have a nova tank (a modified by Jac to fit their batteries one which I'm hoping can be used with replacement wicks from other companies).
i am desperate not to abandon vaping as I was a very heavy smoker- when things work it's really good! I seem to prefer sweeter juices and these are clogging the wicks so fast. I've tried cleaning them but they never work when I put them back- so a new atomiser is needed every few days. I mostly vape at home so am not too worried about size- I can use my PCC when I'm out. I just want something with good compatibility so I can try things like dual coil tanks and straight atomisers (and anything else anyone can suggest to save me on changing wicks so frequently!). I'm not even averse to making my own- but this isn't an option with my current set up. 
Very grateful for any suggestions

[chykensa]

frances - hi, and welcome to the forum!
You have made a start, that is the good thing! I've never seen Jacvapour kit before, but I have read that it is incompatible and expensive.
There will be many other posters along who will recommend kit which will be better for you in the long run, but you could do a lot worse than visit Myepack and have a look at their starter kits - here's one to get you started Protank Starter Kit
You will of course need another battery and maybe another tank, so why not buy 2 and then you have a backup charger too.
With 2 batteries and 2 Protanks you will be future-proofed and if you want to get into the realms of recoiling heads, the Protank heads are quite easy to do yourself, as many of us do!
Above all, please don't hesitate to ask any questions you may have; we've all been where you are now and can help you to get the best out of your kit and your wallet

ETA: try having a look through this excellent guide put together by a forum member to see what is around - allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/28309/pics-vids-get-started-abbreviations?page=1&scrollTo=513761

[cigyc]

Hi I was the same totally hooked on jac vapour is products are brilliant but can't be used with anything else unless you buy the adapter only couple of pounds but i dident find it that good to be honest there will be lots of people come along soon to help I'm a newbie

[dragon]

The magic number you are looking for is 510, that is the standard fitting these days that nearly all independent systems use. Many things are 510/ego fitting. A 510 atty will fit on an ego battery, but an ego atty will not fit on a 510 battery (there are very few of these) without an adapter.

You will probably be able to get an adapter for your batteries which will allow you to use 510 attys. I don't know what size fitting jac use, hopefully someone can tell you. www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=35

For gunky liquids I really like the iClear16s. If you learn how to dry burn you can keep the coils going for months. The iClears are also a lot less likely to burn your liquids.

Good hunting, there are some wonderful systems out there, just remember to stay with 510 and you can mix and match

[Karma]

Hello and frances

[giles]

frances

Main thing is to get a clearomiser with replaceable heads, so when they gunk up you replace only the head, not the whole atty. The iclear and protank will both do that; so will the evod, which is like the protank but a bit cheaper. Protank and evod heads are cheaper than iclear; or you can buy wick and wire and rebuild them yourself, which can't be done easily on the iclear. The iclear also tends to use more juice - but it is a very nice vape.

The obvious replacement battery would be a spinner. You could get something like firstvape.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=226 You'd probably put an evod, mini protank or an iclear 16 on it rather than a bigger clearo.

Or, if you are happy with something much bigger and heavier you could take a larger step and go for something like a vamo - charliesvapeshop.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=296 or much cheaper slowboat from china (if you want to do that let us know, and we can advise on batteries etc.). You would put a full size protank or an iclear 30 on that.

Are you using Jac's juices? There are better and cheaper alternatives.

[Roscopecotrain]

Hi Frances welcome to AAEC.

[ionian]

Hello frances and

[djs]

Welcome Frances.

I was drawn to JacVapour after cutting down from 15 a day to about 12 a day using E-Lites. They're good they are, and cheap too. NOT.

Sometimes, the whole JacVapour thing annoys me, other times I'm kind of so-so about it. Compared to E-Lites, JacVapour are good guys.
Do I feel I got the whole truth buying into their system? No. But products like Blu and Halo in the US do exactly the same thing. They conveniently forget to mention the stuff is incompatible with almost everything else on the market.

Now, some good news. It IS possible to use up your cartomizers and even your Vivi Novas using an adapter to make it fit 510 equipment.

Even saying that - I'd say buy yourself something new and 100% compatible.

If you feel you want to get your money's worth out of the VV vGo, then keep using it with the vivi nova tank. If it takes one new atomizer head every 2-3 days, that's only 70p a day - you probably won't find them cheaper than £1.99 in all honesty. Then again, you might decide to use up what you have and then buy a 510 Vivi Nova .... your inherent problem is not going to change though.

I used up nearly all my JacVapour kit.... and then cut my losses. The biggest annoyance is that every last product is more expensive than it needs to be; from the liquids to the batteries to the atomizers.

Trouble is, google leads SO many people to JacVapour. So many people are utterly "amazed" at the quality and all the reviews are sensational.
Compared to skycigs and E-Lites, they are a bloody miracle. However, the users pay too much and it's only when you start shopping around that you realise the 808 problem.

Somebody once described the V3 mini cig-a-like as the best one on the market. Even I wrote a generous review about it in the early days.
I puffed on mine yesterday, freshly charged battery with a brand new 18mg Vanilla cartomiser. What a disappointment.
This stuff is old, old technology now. A £7.50 eGo battery kit is superior in every way.

[djs]

Nov 2, 2013 14:59:03 GMT giles said:

Are you using Jac's juices? There are better and cheaper alternatives.

Interestingly, all those old JacVapour flavours are coming back to haunt me. I have matched up SEVEN of them now with Dekang bottles from myepack at £2.49!

(How ripped off do I feel now?....c'mon DJS, own up..... )

[charon]

frances hi and to AAEC, home of the happy vaper.

Well as you found out, Jac's are a touch on the expensive side, but if you could give some idea of what your realistic budget is i'm sure we can guide you to Vaping Nivana (or at least get you sorted out on the right track)

[Super-Shiny]

Hello and frances

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome frances

[frances]

Thank you all for your welcome and advice! I'm afraid I'm new to forums and am not sure how to reply individually to comments on this thread, but I'll try to add quotes and see if that works. Actually I've just been to the help with posting page and think I'll need to do separate posts to reply to each of you! This is proving another steep learning curve!

[frances]

Nov 2, 2013 15:43:54 GMT charon said:

frances hi and to AAEC, home of the happy vaper.

Well as you found out, Jac's are a touch on the expensive side, but if you could give some idea of what your realistic budget is i'm sure we can guide you to Vaping Nivana (or at least get you sorted out on the right track)

Well, budget isn't too important, as long as I can find something that is suitable. I do like a variable voltage, flavour is important as is a good throat hit. I really don't mind if it is on the large side- I'd be using a smaller one when out. I'm not very 'science' minded, but am up for the challenge of working it out and quite like the idea of fiddling and tweaking- as long as the product is good. I think what I'm trying to say is- I don't mind a bit of initial outlay for something that has flexibility in terms of choice of tanks/ atomisers- particularly if it might save a bit in the long run. Thank you for your reply.