Newbie mixing hysterics

[Perpetua]

Dec 16, 2013 18:14:46 GMT sammy13 said:

Dec 15, 2013 20:30:03 GMT spikus said:

Wow .. You guys are so scientific ... I've got my 50/50 24 mg Nic base ... Stick some in a small bottle ... Bung in a few drops of any flavour I fancy ... Give it a shake ... Stick a few drops in a dripper .. Have a vape ... Add more flavour if needed...job done ... Then pop it into whatever atty I'm using ....
I expect many will be horrified by this approach but it works for me

That is what I have gone with, with vpg nic base mix, does it give the same results as doing it all singulary? ( vg, pg, nic base ) ???

I chose 18mg vpg nic base as the nicotine thingy does worry me, what if I work it out wrong etc, not worried about the wearing gloves etc, I wont be wearing gloves or masks  but don't want to kill myself cos my maths went skew wiff

I just wondered if it gives the same results? I know it should but it makes it seem so easy.

I find it more confusing tbh buying the premixed bases Sammy . . . I guess they're fine if you're certain of your flavouring percentages and the diluted strength works for you. 18mg base doesn't give you much tweaking leeway however.

There's no reason to be worried about mixing with higher strength bases, if you follow the sensible/advised precautions and use one of the recommended calculators.

[spikus]

I presume ..( but I'm new to this ) that having pre mixed VG/PG at a set level of 18mg removes some of the more problematic sides of mixing like trying to get your Nic levels right ... That part is already done for you.. All you need do is add flavours of your choosing ... Nothing you do can increase the nicotine levels ... Only lower it slightly

It sounds simple and I think it really is... Unless I've missed the point entirely

Also the odd bit of juice ( at 18 mg) on an ungloved finger isn't gonna kill you ... God I'm sure we've all swallowed small amounts before

[Karma]

I mainly mix using pre-mixed base just because I find it slightly more convenient!

[Roger]

Dec 17, 2013 11:48:26 GMT spikus said:

I presume ..( but I'm new to this ) that having pre mixed VG/PG at a set level of 18mg removes some of the more problematic sides of mixing like trying to get your Nic levels right ... That part is already done for you.. All you need do is add flavours of your choosing ... Nothing you do can increase the nicotine levels ... Only lower it slightly

It sounds simple and I think it really is... Unless I've missed the point entirely

Also the odd bit of juice ( at 18 mg) on an ungloved finger isn't gonna kill you ... God I'm sure we've all swallowed small amounts before

It all depends on how much you want to lower the nic.  Using a 10ml total mix using 18mg nic at 50/50 as an example:

10% flavouring - 9ml 18mg 50/50  1ml pg based flavour will give you 10ml of 55/45 @ 16.2mg
20% flavouring - 8ml 18mg 50/50  2ml pg based flavour will give you 10ml of 60/40 @ 14.4mg

It is simple and if you are not too worried about the mg of your mix then fine, but a lot of mixers prefer to mix to exactly what they want.  A good calc makes this simple as well.

[Fockskey]

I use 54mg nic base and I use one of the calculators that gives you the option of saving your mix configuration as a file. I find using 54mg base also allows me to work out roughly how much finished juice I end up with. 30ml = 90ml, 50ml = 150ml and so on, as I have my finished strength at around18mg. I only where gloves when handling the nic base and I mix the whole lot as an 18mg 50/50 base, then decant to 30ml bottles and add the flavour. This results in a slightly lower mg level, at around 16.5mg and is good for my needs as I don't like to overdo the flavour. Most base mixes are the same price in 18 as they are in 54mg.

[emmita]

Dec 17, 2013 14:46:41 GMT Fockskey said:

I use 54mg nic base and I use one of the calculators that gives you the option of saving your mix configuration as a file. I find using 54mg base also allows me to work out roughly how much finished juice I end up with. 30ml = 90ml, 50ml = 150ml and so on, as I have my finished strength at around18mg. I only where gloves when handling the nic base and I mix the whole lot as an 18mg 50/50 base, then decant to 30ml bottles and add the flavour. This results in a slightly lower mg level, at around 16.5mg and is good for my needs as I don't like to overdo the flavour. Most base mixes are the same price in 18 as they are in 54mg.

This is what I have started to do.  I am assuming you still need to steep the liquid?  Although somewhere I saw that someone here vapes it straight off.  ????

[Carpe Vapor]

Dec 17, 2013 15:16:55 GMT emmita said:

I am assuming you still need to steep the liquid?  Although somewhere I saw that someone here vapes it straight off.  ????

From my experience, when only adding one flavour, steeping for 1 day after a thoroughly good shake now and then is fine.

Prolonged steeping is generally required when mixing multiple flavours together and/or when using VG heavy bases as it will take longer for the flavour to mix wit the VG due to it's consistency

[Roger]

Dec 17, 2013 16:20:49 GMT Carpe Vapor said:

Dec 17, 2013 15:16:55 GMT emmita said:

I am assuming you still need to steep the liquid?  Although somewhere I saw that someone here vapes it straight off.  ????

From my experience, when only adding one flavour, steeping for 1 day after a thoroughly good shake now and then is fine.

Prolonged steeping is generally required when mixing multiple flavours together and/or when using VG heavy bases as it will take longer for the flavour to mix wit the VG due to it's consistency

A lot of tobacco flavours, even single, do often require at least a good week before they are "getting there"

[Carpe Vapor]

Would that be due to the concentrate's themselves being freshly prepared before being sent ?

[Roger]

Dec 17, 2013 16:24:05 GMT Carpe Vapor said:

Would that be due to the concentrate's themselves being freshly prepared before being sent ?

Some may be, but not many.  Some concentrates are good to go after a day, some, even though it is a single concentrate/flavour you think you are using, may be a mix of various flavours.  It is difficult to be exact with some concentrates, a lot will depend on how you like it personally.  I have found I can vape a freshly made menthol straight away, but others will take longer.  

The best advice, as ever, is to mix, leave 24hrs, test, adjust if necessary etc, etc.  But some mixes are good straight away, others aren't.  If trying a new flavour, I always have a search around to see what sort of % and steeping time etc.  Always keep notes, it saves that "oh bol****s what did I tweak that one to?"

All part of the fun that is