vamo v5 batts

[thatguy]

Efest IMR 18650 V2 2000 mah Button Top or Efest Purple High DISCHARGE RATE BATTERY for vamo 5, any suggestions?

[Perpetua]

I use these.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-GENUINE-PANASONIC-NCR-18650B-Li-Ion-3400mAh-3-7V-RECHARGEABLE-BATTERIES-UK-NEW/181452780526?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24059%26meid%3D8534795748474401823%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D10244%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D360832335747

[leo]

Red efests are fine in the vamo... i'd suggest a pair of 18350's over an 18650, the vamo is mahoosive in 18650 mode, but works well and is more manageable in 18350 mode
(2x 18350's lasts me a days vaping ~4ml juice)

EDIT: Buuuutt..... if you want 18650's get the best/safest: Sony vtc5's are under £15 a pair on ebay. Might be overkill for the vamo, but perfect if you have, or might get, a mech)

EDIT EDIT: should be noted that Li-Ion (the link above) is not considered as safe a battery chemistry as IMR. Don't be tempted by the higher mAh ratings. Stick to IMR for safety

[BrenD]

m.ebay.co.uk/itm/121381453526?nav=SEARCH

Play very nicely with my Vamos. I get all of my batteries from Torchy, he is always spot on.

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[ruffdog]

How come my vamo won't accept my flat top 18650. just doesnt make contact at all. Hopefully my order of magnet spacers will come today and i can use both 18650,s in the vamo.

Ruffie.

[zeldamum]

Jul 24, 2014 8:43:37 GMT ruffdog said:

How come my vamo won't accept my flat top 18650. just doesnt make contact at all. Hopefully my order of magnet spacers will come today and i can use both 18650,s in the vamo.

Ruffie.

If the flat top battery has a very slight dent in it the Vamo V5 pin wont connect with the battery. One reason I now use my V2 all the time.

[ruffdog]

Jul 24, 2014 8:46:44 GMT zeldamum said:

Jul 24, 2014 8:43:37 GMT ruffdog said:

How come my vamo won't accept my flat top 18650. just doesnt make contact at all. Hopefully my order of magnet spacers will come today and i can use both 18650,s in the vamo.

Ruffie.

If the flat top battery has a very slight dent in it the Vamo V5 pin wont connect with the battery. One reason I now use my V2 all the time.

That's what I thought tbh. so my magnets should do the trick then. 

[hijack]

Jul 24, 2014 3:34:00 GMT thatguy said:

Efest IMR 18650 V2 2000 mah Button Top or Efest Purple High DISCHARGE RATE BATTERY for vamo 5, any suggestions?

Either of those batteries are fine for the vamo, Its just down to the capacity the red's are 2000 but I think you can get purple in 3100. The discharge rate is less for the 3100 but wont be an issue as the vamo wont fire below 1 Ohm so a 6A or greater battery is fine. That efest 35A purple is actually a 20A LG battery and efest decided to print the peak discharge rate on the label and not the continuous discharge rate that other makers use.

Jul 24, 2014 7:33:13 GMT leo said:

EDIT EDIT: should be noted that Li-Ion (the link above) is not considered as safe a battery chemistry as IMR. Don't be tempted by the higher mAh ratings. Stick to IMR for safety

Although the NCR's are Li-Ion, so do contain the more volatile chemistry, Panasonic have addressed the safety issues inherent with LI-Ion by designing some passive protection within the make-up of this paticular battery. They have what Panasonic call HRL(heat resistant layer)which is supposed to stop the battery overheating even when short circuited. I believe there is also a  CID(current interrupt device) and PTC(Positive temperature coefficient) device, which works by increasing the internal resistance of the battery if it were to start overheating which results in drop-off in the current output.

My apologies as I didn't go into this in my battery buying guide and just listed the NCR in the list of safe batteries without explaining why they were there.

The NCR Li-Ion are definitely safer than pretty much every other Li-Ion. 

[leo]

Jul 24, 2014 9:13:15 GMT hijack said:

Jul 24, 2014 3:34:00 GMT thatguy said:

Efest IMR 18650 V2 2000 mah Button Top or Efest Purple High DISCHARGE RATE BATTERY for vamo 5, any suggestions?

Either of those batteries are fine for the vamo, Its just down to the capacity the red's are 2000 but I think you can get purple in 3100. The discharge rate is less for the 3100 but wont be an issue as the vamo wont fire below 1 Ohm so a 6A or greater battery is fine. That efest 35A purple is actually a 20A LG battery and efest decided to print the peak discharge rate on the label and not the continuous discharge rate that other makers use.

Jul 24, 2014 7:33:13 GMT leo said:

EDIT EDIT: should be noted that Li-Ion (the link above) is not considered as safe a battery chemistry as IMR. Don't be tempted by the higher mAh ratings. Stick to IMR for safety

Although the NCR's are Li-Ion, so do contain the more volatile chemistry, Panasonic have addressed the safety issues inherent with LI-Ion by designing some passive protection within the make-up of this paticular battery. They have what Panasonic call HRL(heat resistant layer)which is supposed to stop the battery overheating even when short circuited. I believe there is also a  CID(current interrupt device) and PTC(Positive temperature coefficient) device, which works by increasing the internal resistance of the battery if it were to start overheating which results in drop-off in the current output.

My apologies as I didn't go into this in my battery buying guide and just listed the NCR in the list of safe batteries without explaining why they were there.

The NCR Li-Ion are definitely safer than pretty much every other Li-Ion. 

Thanks for the info hijack, very useful as always.
Anyone looking at the Panny Li-Ions in the second post should note they are rated at 3.4amps continuous, so you should stay above 1.2ohms and below 14watts if you are considering these.
Given that a pair of Sony VTC5's are cheaper, and can handle 30amp continuous, I can't think of a good reason to get the Pannys over the Sony's. But to each their own!

[xs2man]

Jul 24, 2014 7:33:13 GMT leo said:

Red efests are fine in the vamo... i'd suggest a pair of 18350's over an 18650, the vamo is mahoosive in 18650 mode, but works well and is more manageable in 18350 mode
(2x 18350's lasts me a days vaping ~4ml juice)

EDIT: Buuuutt..... if you want 18650's get the best/safest: Sony vtc5's are under £15 a pair on ebay. Might be overkill for the vamo, but perfect if you have, or might get, a mech)

EDIT EDIT: should be noted that Li-Ion (the link above) is not considered as safe a battery chemistry as IMR. Don't be tempted by the higher mAh ratings. Stick to IMR for safety

I think Perpetua knows what she is talking about.  You don't actually need IMR batteries for regulated devices such as Vamos as they have inbuilt protection.  I have also used a few NCR18650B's in such devices, both protected and unprotected batteries.  As the Vamo has the protection built in, it is fine to use these, and the extra mAh is a welcome bonus.
If the OP was thinking about using mechanical mods in the future, then yes, Sony VTC's would be the way to go.  But there is no mention of this.  And the thread is titled Vamo 5 batteries. 

Don't be scared to try anything suggested here.  The Panasonics will be an excellent battery for your Vamo.  As will any other battery here.  The differences between them will only be for how long they last in this device.  And how suitable they might be in future devices.  But if you keep them in regulated devices, they will all be fine.

[xs2man]

Jul 24, 2014 9:36:00 GMT leo said:

Jul 24, 2014 9:13:15 GMT hijack said:

Either of those batteries are fine for the vamo, Its just down to the capacity the red's are 2000 but I think you can get purple in 3100. The discharge rate is less for the 3100 but wont be an issue as the vamo wont fire below 1 Ohm so a 6A or greater battery is fine. That efest 35A purple is actually a 20A LG battery and efest decided to print the peak discharge rate on the label and not the continuous discharge rate that other makers use.

Although the NCR's are Li-Ion, so do contain the more volatile chemistry, Panasonic have addressed the safety issues inherent with LI-Ion by designing some passive protection within the make-up of this paticular battery. They have what Panasonic call HRL(heat resistant layer)which is supposed to stop the battery overheating even when short circuited. I believe there is also a  CID(current interrupt device) and PTC(Positive temperature coefficient) device, which works by increasing the internal resistance of the battery if it were to start overheating which results in drop-off in the current output.

My apologies as I didn't go into this in my battery buying guide and just listed the NCR in the list of safe batteries without explaining why they were there.

The NCR Li-Ion are definitely safer than pretty much every other Li-Ion. 

Thanks for the info hijack, very useful as always.
Anyone looking at the Panny Li-Ions in the second post should note they are rated at 3.4amps continuous, so you should stay above 1.2ohms and below 14watts if you are considering these.
Given that a pair of Sony VTC5's are cheaper, and can handle 30amp continuous, I can't think of a good reason to get the Pannys over the Sony's. But to each their own!

mAh is one very good reason.  Most people using a device like this will probably use coils in the range of 1.6 - 2.4 or whatever Kanger / Aspire / Innokin use for their coils.  That's really what these devices are designed for.  If people are planning on vaping with low ohms, then the Vamo and the like won't go below 1 Ohm, and will be limiting their current to 5A usually anyway, so not ideal for sub-ohming and the like.

On the other hand, the Panasonics have a MUCH better battery life than the VTC's.  I wouldn't buy the Panasonics again personally, but that is because I DO actually sub-ohm drip.  So I want all my batteries capable of this.  But if you're just using the latest Kanger / Aspire / Innokin coil, then why not have the extra battery capacity of the Pannys?  They are still a great battery, and plenty safe for most peoples useage.

[ronaldo]

we have done charge discharge tests hundreds of times in the past and everytime without fail the battery that can be charged the most times as always been the green Panasonic battery I am not saying they are the best but they will outlive anything else by over 100 charges at least so for a vamo I would chose a Panasonic over every other battery

[leo]

Jul 24, 2014 9:44:40 GMT xs2man said:

mAh is one very good reason.  Most people using a device like this will probably use coils in the range of 1.6 - 2.4 or whatever Kanger / Aspire / Innokin use for their coils.  That's really what these devices are designed for.  If people are planning on vaping with low ohms, then the Vamo and the like won't go below 1 Ohm, and will be limiting their current to 5A usually anyway, so not ideal for sub-ohming and the like.

On the other hand, the Panasonics have a MUCH better battery life than the VTC's.  I wouldn't buy the Panasonics again personally, but that is because I DO actually sub-ohm drip.  So I want all my batteries capable of this.  But if you're just using the latest Kanger / Aspire / Innokin coil, then why not have the extra battery capacity of the Pannys?  They are still a great battery, and plenty safe for most peoples useage.

As we know shinyitis is a slippery slope with sub-ohm coils/drippers and mech-mods at the bottom of it... so why not future-proof your batteries.... especially if the more capable (if very slightly smaller capacity) batts are cheaper!?

[Ripshod]

Jul 24, 2014 9:54:18 GMT leo said:

As we know shinyitis is a slippery slope with sub-ohm coils/drippers and mech-mods at the bottom of it... so why not future-proof your batteries.... especially if the more capable (if very slightly smaller capacity) batts are cheaper!?

Actually that's v good advice. I'm currently dabbling with mechs and low ohms, somewhere I swore i'd never go. If I'd bought the right batteries when I started vaping I wouldn't need to be buying more right now.

Even if you never go there better to be prepared. Nothing wrong with overkill.

[xs2man]

That's true for many. But there will be many more who are just happy with what they have though, and are just looking to maximise what they are already comfortable with. In this case, maximising battery life.

Batteries have a finite life. They will eventually wear out. So why get something that's overkill for your device, and doesn't last as long, because you "might" go onto something more advanced later, but have used up so many of the batteries lifetime cycle? Why not just get an appropriate battery for your device, when you need it?

The truth is, according to the OP's sig, they are only 26 days into their vaping journey.  And well played on them venturing onto the likes of a Vamo so quick.  I would suggest that sub-ohming will certainly be a few months further down the road as they get used to battery safety and the like, and the devices they are currently using.  So why stick 100 or so charge cycles on an overkill battery that doesn't have the same capacity as one that will work perfectly well for their current set-up?