High Ohms reading on home made microcoils

[snow]

I am really trying to get the hang of making my own microcoils - the coil jig and kuro coilers I have might as well go in the bin for all the use they are for me I just cannot get the hang of them, however I have been having some limited success with wrapping coils around the little blue screwdriver - this morning I finally made a decent looking microcoil, first time ever that it does look like a microcoil rather than a misshapen oval thing lol popped it in a protank head, wicked it with muji cotton and then put it on the ohms tester and its reading 3.6 ohms! arrrrgggg without the cotton it was over 4 ohms - I really really want to fire it up and see what it vapes like as its taken me all ruddy morning to get this one done and loads of wasted kanthal and my patience is running thin. Is it ok to use a coil thats so high on an istick or mvp? 

[VapingBad]

If the coiler rod size is the same as the screwdriver, grade of wire and number of wraps are the same they should come out the at about the same resistance. I would check the connections are not the problem. After making the coil on the coiler you may find it helpful to slip it on to the screwdriver to fit it to the atty/head as you are more used to this.

[jeffc]

snow Take a look at this video, especially from 9 mins 30 secs.

It takes time to master a micro coil build,I have used `miles` of wire to master it,so don`t despair.

There are vape meets in S.Wales, try and find one, go along and peeps there will help you.

Would not recommend that you use that 3.6-4.0 ohms coil on anything. Put coil back onto screwdriver and unwind 3 coils this should reduce ohms and allow you to use it.

Sorry cannot be of more help, just watch the video:

Good Luck.

[snow]

Thanks guys - jeffc thats the video I had been using to try and build the buggers lol I couldn't unwrap the coil as I'd already cut the legs off when I put it in the protank head and there just wasn't enough leg left for me to fiddle with, so I tried another one, this time I've got it reading 2.5 ohms so I'll use that one and see how it vapes, though its nowhere near as round as the other one lol tbh the problem is probably not going to get solved and I may never be able to do my own microcoils I had eye surgery at the start of the year and have had both lenses replaced fixed for distance, so I have better than 20/20 vision for distance but I have no close up vision without glasses. I wear varificals for the pc and reading and coiling but these coils are just too small and thin for me to be able to focus good enough to see what I'm doing. I managed to do a wrapped coil for my Igo last night which I was chuffed with and is vaping great so it may be that I'll just stick to premade microcoils and single coils and confine my own coiling to the dripper.

[Greg]

Hi snow, if your new to coiling can I ask what size Kanthal you are using and how many wraps you're using and internal diametre of your coil.

The reason I ask is when I started I ordered 0.25 Kanthal and that's what arrived, or so the label said. After similar frustration to you I measured the resistance of ten centimetres of wire and after converting to resistance / meter and checking this on the suppliers website it became apparent they had sent me 0.2mm wire and therefore I would never have been able to achieve the ohms I was aiming for.
Just a thought

[Greg]

I'd also say you can easily make perfect microcoils with 0.3mm and thicker Kanthal, 0.25 however is nowhere near as easy and although you can achieve perfect coils with this it's takes quite a bit more concentration and attention to detail to do so.

[snow]

ahhhhhhhh it is 0.25 kanthal allegedly (from fasttech) and I'm using the little blue screwdriver - tho on the kuro and coil jig I use the 3mm rods. I'll order some thicker wire methinks and try again - thank you x

[Deleted]

You are ordering wire from FT? Now snow I think therein lies your answer..

Would never dream of ordering wire from FT

Always get mine from here - www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/kanthal-A1-heat-resistance-wire-025mm-20metre-2378.html (though there are other resistances. I think I last got www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/kanthal-A1-heat-resistance-wire-020mm-20metre-2374.html at a guess....really easy to wrap ends of wire back onto plastic and secure with sellotape)

Either spools should do fine. I'm a protank/davide girl myself though to be safe rather than sorry I'd go with the last one (this one = www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/kanthal-A1-heat-resistance-wire-020mm-20metre-2374.html). Cheap as chips and will last ages!!!!

Hope that helps if only a little bit

[Greg]

Feb 19, 2015 19:37:54 GMT snow said:

ahhhhhhhh it is 0.25 kanthal allegedly (from fasttech) and I'm using the little blue screwdriver - tho on the kuro and coil jig I use the 3mm rods. I'll order some thicker wire methinks and try again - thank you x

I'd recommend you get it Here

Although the Mesh Company are ok they have been known to send the wrong size and there not the quickest for delivery.

If you get 0.25 and 0.3mm you'll be able to make most coils you need 

[igual]

Hiyas did I read right your useing 3mm rods for coils for protank heads?
If so Theron is the problem.
2.2mm mandrel is really the maximum for protank coils.
Have a looksie here allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/48380/kanger-protank-recoil-microcoil-guide?page=1&scrollTo=846323
Also have you thought about useing something like this for detailed close up work.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-Light-8-Lens-Loop-Headband-Head-Strap-Magnifier-Watch-Repair-Jeweler-Loupe-/141173589671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20de9a06a7
I use similar for making chainmaille, soldering etc

[*-SARIN-*]

Practice coiling for you dripper, the coils can be bigger and there's less fiddling about. After you have that nailed then you can try making the minuscule coils that are required for the kanger heads. Learning to build microcoils for a kanger head is madness and very frustrating for the novice.

[Greg]

Feb 19, 2015 20:07:16 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

Practice coiling for you dripper, the coils can be bigger and there's less fiddling about. After you have that nailed then you can try making the minuscule coils that are required for the kanger heads. Learning to build microcoils for a kanger head is madness and very frustrating for the novice.

I don't think coiling a Kanger/Evod head as a novice is madness at all. That's how I started and it's pretty straightforward, especially if you follow the excellent AAEC guide 

id recommend anyone starts here, it's not difficult with a little practice.

[*-SARIN-*]

Feb 19, 2015 20:15:04 GMT Greg said:

Feb 19, 2015 20:07:16 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

Practice coiling for you dripper, the coils can be bigger and there's less fiddling about. After you have that nailed then you can try making the minuscule coils that are required for the kanger heads. Learning to build microcoils for a kanger head is madness and very frustrating for the novice.

I don't think coiling a Kanger/Evod head as a novice is madness at all. That's how I started and it's pretty straightforward, especially if you follow the excellent AAEC guide 

id recommend anyone starts here, it's not difficult with a little practice.

But why have the frustration that OP is having learning to coil a kanger head when they have a dripper that allows for bigger bore coils and an easier deck?  I was under the impression that OP was having trouble making and fitting coils that were so small?

[Greg]

Feb 19, 2015 20:28:24 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

Feb 19, 2015 20:15:04 GMT Greg said:

I don't think coiling a Kanger/Evod head as a novice is madness at all. That's how I started and it's pretty straightforward, especially if you follow the excellent AAEC guide 

id recommend anyone starts here, it's not difficult with a little practice.

But why have the frustration that OP is having learning to coil a kanger head when they have a dripper that allows for bigger bore coils and an easier deck?  I was under the impression that OP was having trouble making and fitting coils that were so small?

It's yet to be confirmed but given the high resistance results my suspicion is 0.2 Kanthal is being used, now making a microcoil with that is definitely not for the faint hearted 

[*-SARIN-*]

Feb 19, 2015 20:34:22 GMT Greg said:

Feb 19, 2015 20:28:24 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

But why have the frustration that OP is having learning to coil a kanger head when they have a dripper that allows for bigger bore coils and an easier deck?  I was under the impression that OP was having trouble making and fitting coils that were so small?

It's yet to be confirmed but given the high resistance results my suspicion is 0.2 Kanthal is being used, now making a microcoil with that is definitely not for the faint hearted 

I agree, 0.2mm kanthal is a right PITA.  I can understand that a lot of people start coiling by re-doing their kanger heads and it's their first step into the world of rebuildables but man, that would be enough to put anyone off