Smok M80 Temperature Mode Help

[Bobsbeer]

I wait to be convinced, but leaving my order with alex for now. With a suspected shipping date of April they have time to fiddle with the board and software. I feel sorry for those that are being used as live guinea pigs for this. But I thank you all, in the hope that the feedback gets the system working. I can live in hope. Only time will tell. In the mean time the VIR may emerge from virtual to reality.

[dubstuff]

I really think people are being a bit too critical and forgetting the price of this device. If it was £150 i could understand the bashing. If it was just VW it is still a bargain. i have 2 evolve dna 40's and they both play up. one keeps killing batteries when left unused. and the other doesn't always recognise the nickel. given a bit more time i think they will sort it.

[robby]

If it had been sold as a VW device that would have been fine, but it was marketed as a temp control device, call me old fashioned, but if I buy a vacuum cleaner I expect it to suck up the crap  The price is irrelevant, you wouldn`t take it from a UK company, why should you take it from a Chinese one. On top of all that, they really must have known exactly what they were selling.

[Ripshod]

Mar 7, 2015 17:00:31 GMT robby said:

The ramp up is fixed though

That isn't enough though robby. Either it's fixed or it aint, I prefer the lattter!!

[dubstuff]

Robby there 100's of british products that clime to do something and only kind of do it. it has nothing to do with were they are made. Just name one mod that has never had any teething problems. at the end of the day evolve still hasn't got it right.

[robby]

Mar 7, 2015 20:36:55 GMT dubstuff said:

Robby there 100's of british products that clime to do something and only kind of do it. it has nothing to do with were they are made. Just name one mod that has never had any teething problems. at the end of the day evolve still hasn't got it right.

This one didn`t even "kind of do it" and that`s why it was priced at the very same point as the non temp control M65 (lower power, no 4400mah battery). They knew exactly what they were doing and deceived everyone, including the vendors. It was a cynical con. 

[dubstuff]

have you seen the P Brasado review of the DNA 40? It docent really work either. the fact is we will probably never get a accurate temp control device as there is so many variables. so does that mean all dna 40 devices should be sent back for refund? at the end of the day kind of doing it is not doing it.it either accurately measures temp or it doesn't.
Im not saying that smok is right in what they have done but everyone is comparing it to a device that doesn't really work
And i don't believe smok were trying to rip people off. more a case of getting the concept wrong.

[Bobsbeer]

I don't think it's about comparing it to the DNA40. It's about, does it do what it says on the tin. Using robby example of vacuum cleaners, does it suck stuff up. There are many makes of vacuum cleaners out there, but all suck up crap. Some do it better than others. But the point here is, does it control the temperature at the coil? I don't care how it does it, but does it do it? In Smok's case it seems it doesn't. In Evolve's case, it does after a fashion. We don't need to compare manufacturers, we need to compare the outcome. Simple in my view. If it doesn't suck up crap it aint a vacuum cleaner.

[robby]

It does not temp control AT ALL, end of. I have a clone DNA40 that works great. I really dont see how they could get the concept so badly wrong that it didn`t work at all and then expect the vaping public to part with their money on a false pretence that they were getting the latest advance ie Temperature Control. We wont agree on this, so lets not go any further with it.

[Tom]

Mar 7, 2015 21:35:16 GMT dubstuff said:

have you seen the P Brasado review of the DNA 40? It docent really work either. the fact is we will probably never get a accurate temp control device as there is so many variables. so does that mean all dna 40 devices should be sent back for refund? at the end of the day kind of doing it is not doing it.it either accurately measures temp or it doesn't.
Im not saying that smok is right in what they have done but everyone is comparing it to a device that doesn't really work
And i don't believe smok were trying to rip people off. more a case of getting the concept wrong.

Hate to jump in but just wanted to add my 2c...

'have you seen phil's review...'

I watched his reviews (both parts) and can agree to some extent.

However, having possession of 2 x dna40s, strangely over the last 3 months, never had an issue using temp control, I have to say it does work and works flawlessly (for me).

I'm aware that some of the boards had problems (6% of the first batch - info from phils vid), but smoks temp control doesn't work in 100% of the models.

Thats very different IMO.

At the price point, I don't expect it to be as proficient, but I expect it to at least try to do what it says it can!

[dubstuff]

but with the upgrade it is working just not very well. its monitoring resistance exactly the same as the evolve. just not storing the base line resistance. as the resistance goes up the wattage goes down same as the evolve.

[Bobsbeer]

I really don't care how it works, it just needs to control the temperature at the coil. The systems so far seem to do this via monitoring the resistance and deriving a temperature from that. They could just as easily have a temperature probe in the atty or part of the coil. The latter would rule out using existing atomisers, but is possible with a dedicated unit. But that isn't really the point. The SMOK unit says it controls the temperature between 100-600F, and shows a rather neat graphic on the website of it holding the temperature at 300F in a VERY straight line. Does it do this? The consensus appears to be a resounding NO. So until they can show that the unit does as it is advertised, I will not be convinced that SMOK have cracked the temperature control system. Don't get me wrong I hope they do. In fact I am relying on them doing so, as I have paid for a pre order M80 Plus. So in that regard I have put my money down in the faith that SMOK can get this problem sorted. I just hope that that faith is not misguided.

[dubstuff]

To be fair with version 0005 it is working. and as long as you let it cool down between vapes. its fine. the problem with it now is that every time you press the fire button it re reads the coil. So if the coil is already hot the next vape is hotter. but there is no reason they can't fix it with a update lol

[sydsut]

Mar 7, 2015 23:53:18 GMT dubstuff said:

To be fair with version 0005 it is working. and as long as you let it cool down between vapes. its fine. the problem with it now is that every time you press the fire button it re reads the coil. So if the coil is already hot the next vape is hotter. but there is no reason they can't fix it with a update lol

Why? they should have fixed it with the 0005 update but didn't. Will 0006 be any better?

[Bobsbeer]

By the time I get mine all will be fixed. Although it will be at version 0099 by then. Me of little faith.