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Post by johnstrangey on Oct 3, 2015 9:33:14 GMT
hijack does it keep ok in the boots bottles I've though about doing that too and decanting enough for the day into a 30ml bottle was worried they didn't have a decent seal on them though
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Post by hijack on Oct 3, 2015 9:46:25 GMT
I have been using 3 bottles on rotation and notice nothing 'Iffy' after they have been in there a few months before I get to use. The bottles as you know have the standard 'no leak' insert in the cap. You could I guess find a better washer...of the type used on 'Grolsh' bottle, but a size that would fit in the cap. But over a few Months I havnt seen the need for a better seal. Decanting can be fun....A 30ml syringe and a plastic long tube needle makes life easy unless you already use another mess-free method.
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Post by GunJack on Oct 3, 2015 9:55:52 GMT
just to reiterate what some other guys have said...and maybe add summat that I didn't notice...
Whilst the basic costs of DIY are much cheaper, it very often transpires that the cost of your concentrates will be the most expensive part, depending on what concentrates and %age you use. E.g. my ADV Inawera RY4 is mixed at 7%, and the rest-of-the-time Gypsy King is 1-2%. A lot of people end up with 20-30% flavourings, which will ramp the cost up.
My typical costs are about 19p per 10ml of RY4, less for the Gypsy King, at 12mg, 70-30 pg/vg.
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Post by chykensa on Oct 3, 2015 9:56:02 GMT
I'm not the sort to work out things to the penny, but I can confirm that mixing my own juice is FAR cheaper than buying Premium juice and it's just as good, if not sometimes better! I guess I average less that £1/10ml, and when mixing Custard in bulk (I have 400ml a week old) the price drops considerably. VG is cheap as chips if you buy in bulk, and will keep in a fridge long enough to make things really cost-effective. There are so many 'one-shot' concentrates available now that you are spoilt for choice, and with the expertise on this forum and the choice of recipes in the Mixology section, you will never be short of something to make. It's great fun, can be frustrating at times, but the pleasure of vaping a well-steeped homemade juice is incomparable. Get stuck in and enjoy the journey. As spacey says, I just can't bring myself to pay £15 for 20ml of Premium juice any more
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Post by Greg on Oct 3, 2015 10:21:04 GMT
Costs can vary widely but it's always cheaper to DIY. I Vape loads of red Astaire which is around £10 for 30ml of conc. I no longer use nic or PG and my dilutent of choice is AG, £29 for 10 litres I mix RA at 15% so 100ml costs me £5.26 or 53p per 10ml. I also love chefs rebranded watermelon wow, costs only £1.50 per 10ml conc and I mix at 10%. So 100ml only costs £1.76 or per 18 pence per 10ml
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 3, 2015 10:47:36 GMT
So all you successful and very satisfied home eliquid mixers . . . . what would you say are your ' secrets ' to making an enjoyable vape? My top two would have to be patience - especially if you're making dessert, custard type mixes and not being deterred if everything you create doesn't quite hit the spot first time. That's the beauty of DIY you can ' tweak ' to suit your individual tastes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 10:57:58 GMT
Home mixers come in 2 categories though PerpetuaThose that can follow a recipe.............and the nutters like me who want to invent them.
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 3, 2015 11:03:44 GMT
Hmmmm . . . . I'm not so sure kreed, there's a bit of an overlap for me anyway. Sometimes it's just an easy choice to follow a recipe or use a one shot concentrate - but that can also lead to someone then going on to tweak, personalise it to suit their tastes. There's a bit of both in all of us mixers perhaps?
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Post by spacey on Oct 3, 2015 11:20:33 GMT
So all you successful and very satisfied home eliquid mixers . . . . what would you say are your ' secrets ' to making an enjoyable vape? My top two would have to be patience - especially if you're making dessert, custard type mixes and not being deterred if everything you create doesn't quite hit the spot first time. That's the beauty of DIY you can ' tweak ' to suit your individual tastes. Pretty much what you say Perpetua Patience, and not giving up when you first start out because it tastes a bit bleugh Getting to know your flavours is another important factor (to me anyway). I only really started being successful once I started making small single flavour testers, as one flavour can come across very differently on it's own, compared to when it's in a recipe. Allow them to steep, then experiment and blend things together you feel could be good using a dripper. Some will work and some definitely won't!! Edit - also, pick some well known recipes from around the interwebz that have good feedback and give one a go to get used to the process. Other than AAEC,the diy ejuice Subreddit is a mine of info and recipes, as is Vaping Underground's diy section. There's comprehensive flavour notes on just about every concentrate out there!! I can spend hours reading stuff on both of these sites and have learnt loads, e.g using things like AP (acetyl pyrazine) to your mix's advantage
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Post by poochops on Oct 3, 2015 12:59:42 GMT
johnstrangey it keeps very well in boots VG bottles mate, each of mine have been reused at least half a dozen times [img src=" " alt=" "]
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 13:17:34 GMT
you only have to visit sites like mentioned above where there are plenty of fantastic recipies, many clones that are either the same or very close to the original.
With a bit of common sense most are more than capable of getting their head round mixing, and theres nothing more satisfying than making and enjoying your own concoctions.
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Post by whiteclouds on Oct 3, 2015 14:41:54 GMT
So all you successful and very satisfied home eliquid mixers . . . . what would you say are your ' secrets ' to making an enjoyable vape? My top two would have to be patience - especially if you're making dessert, custard type mixes and not being deterred if everything you create doesn't quite hit the spot first time. That's the beauty of DIY you can ' tweak ' to suit your individual tastes. This for me, and probably the hardest part is finding the base mix before going on to tweaking frustration and joy
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 3, 2015 15:11:37 GMT
I'll also add a dollop of confidence once you've got to grips with the basics ( of anything ) as being one of the single most important factors to creating a successful mix, coil - anything really. The only limits there are, are the ones we put on ourselves. * Wine time I think. *
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Post by hijack on Oct 4, 2015 8:29:40 GMT
What spacey says about knowing the individual flavors you are going to use. You cant visualize a combination of flavors If you are unsure of how they taste on their own. This also helps you work out which of the flavors needs to be in the foreground and which need to subtly be in the background of a mix. Trying what others have done can open the door to a combi that you would never have thought of. Then you are able to play around with that until it suits you.
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Post by GunJack on Oct 4, 2015 8:53:56 GMT
My top would have to be patience - Oh yes, patience.... although I can get away with speed-steeping my RY4 with heat and a frothy-coffee battery-operated whisker, it's better if it's naturally steeped for 2 weeks minimum
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