Hang my head in shame...

[rorocalhoun]

Good Morning All! 

I've just joined having stumbled across your forum looking to improve my vaping equipment (and save some money). 

I've been vaping for about 18 months now, but was never a massively heavy smoker. I am sad to say that I've been using a vapestick with clearomisers for the entirety and have seen that I've been making a huge mistake! 

I was always content with the Vapestick in terms of the hit and vaping power but am getting frustrated about costs and reliability!! 

It seems to me that the clearomisers start to fail very quickly, perhaps because I started to buy "Debang" e-liquids (you can get them in most garages)? I end up having to use a new one every week at best! at £5 or so a pop I think its a bit ridiculous. Also the batteries are OK but you have to change every 6 weeks because they start losing charge thats another £16.99!

I'm keen to switch over to something a lot better, but am confused on the parts situation?! Clearly the subtank mini is a good purchase, but I understand this is just the tank bit? What battery is best for it? Can anyone advise on what parts need regular changes? Wicks, coils? Is there a specific type of fluid best used in this?

This is all new to me as you just bought the clearomiser and battery for the vapestick.  

I've been searching through amazon and the parts etc, seem very cheaply priced so I can see myself saving a lot of money even if they need changing regularly! I am potentially going to buy this www.pipedreamsuk.com/kanger-evod-mega-starter-kit.html - but thought i'd garner your thoughts first?

Sorry for the newbie opening - I'm sure you've answered this a million times. 

[Greg]

Hi and welcome to AAEC.

I'd recommend the Subtank mini, a very versatile tank that will meet your needs now and into the future should you decide to rebuild. The SB mini is one of the easiest to rebuild on and regardless of whether you HSE the RBA ofr stock coils it's also one of the most leak free in my experience.

For the mod (battery) I think the istick 30watt is a great starting point.

For juice I'd recommend TJuice, great flavours and should you wish to mix your own in future they sell the concentrates too.

[reefcat]

No shame & no mistake if you've manage to be off the cigarettes for 18 months, very well done.

If you've looked around the forum, you'll see hundred of different devices, mods, coils etc, it's a bit overwhelming at first. Personally I'm a big fan oft he subtank mini, coupled with something like an Istick 50 watt mod. Both are good quality & offer good value in my opinion (other opinions will vary The subtank has coils that are widely available, and you can get huge clouds or not as you prefer. It also has a rebuildable deck that you can coil & wick yourself if you wanted to go in that direction, although many people are happy with the price & availability of the stock coils. Shopping in China can make it all even cheaper if you can wait for delivery.

As for juices, the world's your mollusc, all down to personal taste. Personally I mix my own, as many of us do, so can't comment on retail juice. Hope that helps a little, I'm sure that many others will chip in with their opinions soon.

Well done & welcome - Bob

[Greg]

Or maybe the Coolfire IV

myepack.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=Coolfirhttp://myepack.co.uk/innokin-coolfire-4-express-kit.htmle

[rorocalhoun]

Oct 13, 2015 11:05:15 GMT Greg said:

Hi and welcome to AAEC.

I'd recommend the Subtank mini, a very versatile tank that will meet your needs now and into the future should you decide to rebuild. The SB mini is one of the easiest to rebuild on and regardless of whether you HSE the RBA ofr stock coils it's also one of the most leak free in my experience.

For the mod (battery) I think the istick 30watt is a great starting point.

For juice I'd recommend TJuice, great flavours and should you wish to mix your own in future they sell the concentrates too.

Thanks Greg, I'm a little worried from looking at your MiniSubtank re-build guide? I'm assuming I can buy a replacement coil to avoid having to do this?

Also, what battery would you put with this? I would prefer a slimer cigar like one, rather than a bulky thing that I can't fit in my pocket! 

[rorocalhoun]

Oct 13, 2015 11:13:02 GMT reefcat said:

No shame & no mistake if you've manage to be off the cigarettes for 18 months, very well done.

If you've looked around the forum, you'll see hundred of different devices, mods, coils etc, it's a bit overwhelming at first. Personally I'm a big fan oft he subtank mini, coupled with something like an Istick 50 watt mod. Both are good quality & offer good value in my opinion (other opinions will vary The subtank has coils that are widely available, and you can get huge clouds or not as you prefer. It also has a rebuildable deck that you can coil & wick yourself if you wanted to go in that direction, although many people are happy with the price & availability of the stock coils. Shopping in China can make it all even cheaper if you can wait for delivery.

As for juices, the world's your mollusc, all down to personal taste. Personally I mix my own, as many of us do, so can't comment on retail juice. Hope that helps a little, I'm sure that many others will chip in with their opinions soon.

Well done & welcome - Bob

Thanks Bob, you've answered most of the questions I asked in my reply to Greg! 

I'll check it all out now!

[rorocalhoun]

Just a quick one, how often would I need to change the coils & Wicks? just because i want to buy everything now so I have a stock ready to go.

[Greg]

Oct 13, 2015 11:14:22 GMT rorocalhoun said:

Oct 13, 2015 11:05:15 GMT Greg said:

Hi and welcome to AAEC.

I'd recommend the Subtank mini, a very versatile tank that will meet your needs now and into the future should you decide to rebuild. The SB mini is one of the easiest to rebuild on and regardless of whether you HSE the RBA ofr stock coils it's also one of the most leak free in my experience.

For the mod (battery) I think the istick 30watt is a great starting point.

For juice I'd recommend TJuice, great flavours and should you wish to mix your own in future they sell the concentrates too.

Thanks Greg, I'm a little worried from looking at your MiniSubtank re-build guide? I'm assuming I can buy a replacement coil to avoid having to do this?

Also, what battery would you put with this? I would prefer a slimer cigar like one, rather than a bulky thing that I can't fit in my pocket! 

My rebuild guide is for the RBA deck which you don't have to use immediately if at all. You can buy stock heads which you just replace myepack.co.uk/kanger-subtank-coil-head.html.

ive made a couple of recommendations for the battery although they are both box mods but still surprisingly small. The problem with the cigar shape mods as you call them is battery life isn't great and they are few and far between these days.

[Greg]

Here are a few different styles rorocalhoun



All the tanks are 22mm diametre which are quite top heavy on the "cigar" type batteries. You can get 18mm atties such as the Subtank nano which look better on the smaller batteries but of course hold less juice

Any of the above take your fancy ?

[phatfil]

Hi and welcome, I also applaud your success, well done


A subtank mini is a good easy and trouble free option as for the mod to go with it.. you have a very wide choice.. have a browse make a short list and post the list, your guaranteed to find someone in here to share 1st hand experience

vape shopping cam become addictive be warned, shinyitus is a common complaint in here

if you can wait 2-3 weeks for delivery www.fasttech.com and www.gearbest.com in China sell at bargain prices, gearbest has a uk warehouse too so some items are local delivery (2-3days)
for example www.gearbest.com/starter-kits/pp_232174.html?wid=3

for a UK vendor with a good rep look here www.kingsofvapor.com/

[Deleted]

Well done rorocalhoun on your time off the stinkies with your kit so far. Not going to add to anything that's been recommended by the good folks above as it's great advice, but just to add, remember when you decide to order and check the vendors list on here for discount codes that will get you a few pounds off.

[rorocalhoun]

Oct 13, 2015 11:34:36 GMT Greg said:

Here are a few different styles rorocalhoun



All the tanks are 22mm diametre which are quite top heavy on the "cigar" type batteries. You can get 18mm atties such as the Subtank nano which look better on the smaller batteries but of course hold less juice

Any of the above take your fancy ?

Wow - that's a collection! The one on the left looks good, what battery is that? What are the pro's & cons of that? 

I'm on the verge of the istick with subtank - i like the adjustments you can make and a display too! 

[Get Off My Cloud]

Get the Kanger Subox kit, job done everything you need in one package pretty much
www.kingzofvapour.com/collections/variable-voltage-mods/products/subox-mini-kit
Tank and mod, nice compact little mod will easily fit in your pocket and comes with the Subtank Mini tank.

You will also need a battery to go in the mod
www.kingzofvapour.com/collections/external-batteries-chargers/products/set-of-18650inr-samsung-25r-batteries
You can charge the batteries in the mod via the micro usb port.

If you're after inexpensive juice then try out joosejuice you can get the 10ml bottles for £1.79
joosejuice.co.uk/
The larger bottle sizes are even better value but i suggest ordering in 10ml first to find the ones you like.
I don't know why exactly but for some strange reason they have their shop setup so when you order the larger sizes you actually get double what they say, for instance the 30ml bottles are priced at £7.25 but you actually get two bottles so it's really 60ml for £7.25.

Or there's onepoundeliquid, as the name suggest all their bottles are £1 for 10ml.
www.onepoundeliquid.com/

[Greg]

Oct 13, 2015 11:47:38 GMT rorocalhoun said:

Oct 13, 2015 11:34:36 GMT Greg said:

Here are a few different styles rorocalhoun



All the tanks are 22mm diametre which are quite top heavy on the "cigar" type batteries. You can get 18mm atties such as the Subtank nano which look better on the smaller batteries but of course hold less juice

Any of the above take your fancy ?

Wow - that's a collection! The one on the left looks good, what battery is that? What are the pro's & cons of that? 

I'm on the verge of the istick with subtank - i like the adjustments you can make and a display too! 

Ah the one on the left, that's a Provari P3 and quite expensive, advantages are its a tube if you prefer tubes and most likely one of if the best engineered mod for durability and build quality you can get IMO. The downside is they only go to 20 watts max which doesn't suit some who vape much higher.
the other downside of a Provari is you'll be labelled a fanboy, even buy those who have them but pretend they don't 

3rd from the right is the istick 30w, if you go the iStick route DONT make the mistake of getting the 20watt version 

[phatfil]

www.smokerainbow.com/ for samples of ejuice too