Breaking News: Lord Callanan drops fatal motion

[Postmodern Smoking]

Lord Callanan drops "fatal" motion and changes it to one of "regret".


(Source: www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld/ldordpap.htm#motdeleg)

[majorhazzard]

Damn..he must have caved in to some real pressure to change it I guess.

[sydsut]

We are F****d

[joeten]

^^^ what he said.

[Postmodern Smoking]

I guess that we'll find out a bit more tomorrow.








[ETA] - For those unsure what the change means:

The "fatal" motion would have stopped the TPD ... no going back to the House of Commons. A "regret" motion... just is a display of regret = no impact

".....motion may be moved regretting some aspect of a statutory instrument but in no way requiring the government to take action. This provides an opportunity for critical views to appear on the order paper and be voted upon which would otherwise simply be voiced in the debate. Such motions are invitations to the House to put on record a particular point of view. Even if carried, the motion or amendment has no practical effect: the House passes the instrument in any event."

(www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld/ldcomp/ldctso37.htm)

[BrenD]

[VapingBad]

Petition update

“Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.” Napoleon
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8 Jun 2016 — #LordsVapeVote

No politician has done more for vaping than the incredibly courageous Martin Callanan. As an MEP and now in the House of Lords he has fought like a tiger for vaping.

He is the man who more than any other in the European Parliament successfully fought off compulsory medicinal regulation of e-cigarettes which would have completely killed vaping for 500 million Europeans.

However in the UK Parliament, he has not been able to block the pro EU Commission instincts of Labour’s Shadow Health Secretary, Heidi Alexander. Despite Labour’s leader Jeremy Corbyn having described the TPD as “perverse” and “contradictory”, Labour has announced that it will vote against Lord Callanan’s fatal motion against the TPD. Sadly there is simply now no chance of the Lords vote being won.

#vapersnotidiots

Over the next few days opinion polling will show how vapers have seen Labour as having been reasonably supportive. No longer. The 4,300 vapers in each constituency will remember. The polling will also show how vapers realise that it was lobbying by the big pharma companies which make huge profits out of treating smoking related diseases that was behind Article 20 of the TPD.

#brexitpoker

Vapers have to play a tactical hand, and there is no greater hand that could be given us than the 23 June. This extraordinary referendum is not just extremely close but is exceptionally important to those with the gift of offering vapers what we want. The EU Commission.

So instead of waiting ten years for the implementation of the next TPD in the hope that it will be better than the current one, we can persuade the Commission over the next fortnight into making the very small concessions we want in exchange for the very big victory it wants.

Many vapers rightly see lots of good things in the EU. But if you want to win then you have to fight like a tiger.

“This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is…the end of the beginning.” Churchill

[Perpetua]

Jun 8, 2016 0:01:42 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

[ETA] - For those unsure what the change means:

The "fatal" motion would have stopped the TPD ... no going back to the House of Commons. A "regret" motion... just is a display of regret = no impact

".....motion may be moved regretting some aspect of a statutory instrument but in no way requiring the government to take action. This provides an opportunity for critical views to appear on the order paper and be voted upon which would otherwise simply be voiced in the debate. Such motions are invitations to the House to put on record a particular point of view. Even if carried, the motion or amendment has no practical effect: the House passes the instrument in any event."

(www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld/ldcomp/ldctso37.htm)

[Get Off My Cloud]

[minime]

We really are fooked aren't we, god this winds me up so much.

[GunJack]

So what was the f*****g point??

Callanan has been at the forefront of fighting for vaping over the last few years, so the question is, who's got to him to drop this? IS it all related to the referendum? Who has threatened what?

...we'll never know the real answers to these questions, and that's the thing that's wrong with politics these days, too many shady backroom decisions with no proper public scrutiny...

[Deleted]

so true GunJack - it's deffo corruption that has caused him to drop this - no other reason!!! Simples

I could use more profound language - (don't need to curse but you get the drift) - but I'll refrain. My computer might short LOL


Jane

[Bobsbeer]

Sadly the shady deals may not be in smoke filled rooms anymore, but the shady deals have not been legislated against. I fear money and brown envelopes ganged up against him, so he couldn't win. I suppose a vote in favour of the "regret" motion is some sort of symbolic gesture against TPD. Clearly all our efforts were in vain. Glad I have already voted OUT.

[DiscoDes]

Callanan fought hard, I don't think he was "got at" in any way, however there must have been pressure exerted somewhere.

We should all be pointing our fingers at ASH, they have really lobbied hard to stop the Early Day Motion going through.

I am sure he will issue a statement soon and why he had to change his stance to the motion will become clearer.

#GUTTED

[Chrissie]

I'm also gutted