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Post by DaveJ on Jan 30, 2020 7:43:13 GMT
So anybody on here use them or even tried them ?? ... Whats your thoughts / experience of them please.
None. Zilch, nada.
When I started, prolly like you, there wasn't any such thing as Nic "Salts". So straight dilluted nic (some refer to it as freebase) was what I used and continued to use. Sorta a case now of not messing with what works for me.
However, from what little I've heard and read the following points might be of interest. They may or not be actual fact, and I only offer them in case you've not already heard of 'em.
* A "salt" of anything is made when some acid is mixed with the raw material under discussion. (And that's about as far as my memory of High School chem goes *grin*). But what that means for you in this subject is that a "nic salt" might be one of several possible acids mixed with the nic. Different versions can give different "symptoms" to the user. Where I saw this come out was a while ago, when one of the big Chinese suppliers started out with their first release of their version of nic salts. There were, err, "discussions" with their customers - and later they released a DIFFERENT salt. So now they sell "salts a" and "salts b" depending on the acid used in the chemical mixing of the compounds.
Don't ask me what and why, I wasn't interested enough to follow thro. As I said - I'm long settled into a mix/fluids/gear that works for me.
* Salts, apparently, can be taken into our systems quicker than straight nic. So helping reduce the one difference betwix smoking and vaping - where a smoke hits quick whilst a vape is much slower to "get in" causing a sometimes frustrating delay for new users needing a "quick fix" - like the one you need in liue of taking a swing at the boss 
* Salts are claimed to be "smoother", less harsh to vape. Meaning you can mix a far stronger juice without making it too harsh to vape. Claiming to solve one of the issues with "less powerful" devices needing strong mixes to offer the newly switched user the nic hit they want/need to break from the smokes without being way too harsh to vape. Ergo - exactly what the Juul has did with their 50 plus nic strength. With associated issues that come from the claims of attracting children yada, yada.
* For me it seems you are just adding another "thing" into the mix you are inhaling. Now after 37 years sucking in cigarette smoke, I ought not be too fussy with what crap goes into these old lungs, and I certainly have no idea if the extra acid added into the mix may or not be harmful, but since I don't need it I'm of the view why bother?
Sorry iffn you already knew these - just mentioning a few things I've read.
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Post by DaveJ on Dec 24, 2019 8:31:59 GMT
Thank you snow - same to you. And to all "staff", Perpetua and Chrissie, who run this show. Thank you. Merry Christmas to all AAEC members, and all the best for the coming year to you and yours. |
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Post by DaveJ on Nov 18, 2019 5:35:42 GMT
Well done geordie_vaper just past 5 years at the start of the month myself. Yay!
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Post by DaveJ on Nov 17, 2019 11:34:10 GMT
6 years smoke free, all down to this forum  roll on next year
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Post by DaveJ on Nov 15, 2019 6:59:58 GMT
Supplies:
Bunch of "one shot" concentrates from a local vendor. Ought keep me in vaping flavours for a good long while. |
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Post by DaveJ on Nov 14, 2019 6:11:03 GMT
From here << link >>Located through a post from jessica in the vapers.org threadDr Nick Hopkinson, British Lung Foundation Medical Director and Reader in Respiratory Medicine at Imperial College London, said: “It’s possible the patient’s illness could have been due to an allergic response to a component of e-cigarette vapour. However, in this kind of condition it can often be difficult to make an accurate diagnosis or know for certain what the cause is. This kind of lung disease can sometimes occur spontaneously without any obvious trigger.” That last sentence says it all to me really. I'd agree.
From the latest Vapers.org thread post today I saw extra comments about this. From this link
a) the above quote is repeated b)
c)
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Which pretty much repeats what we long term vapers have been saying all along.
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Post by DaveJ on Nov 3, 2019 6:02:39 GMT
The tobacco giants strike again - and if anyone believes this move is to ' protect ' Chinese youngsters from taking up the vaping habit, then they're either incredibly naive or stupid. It protects the home tobacco industry, no one else.
Whilst this may have been a "false alarm" (for those of us outside of China), I'm sure it further demonstrates intentions - both in China and elsewhere.
I'm now thinking my current, err, "accumulations" may need supplementing.
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Post by DaveJ on Nov 3, 2019 2:15:58 GMT
Seems I may have jumped alittle too quickly with "the sky is falling down" story. In my defense, I've seen the strong "anti" movement here in Oz (lookup Greg Hunt's latest on "e-cigs" - he is our National Health Minister), I've seen the various US states declare "Vaping = bad" and this seemed to be following in those lines. As joeten says there are public comments from several Chinese vendors saying this will not affect export sales from China. And a quick lookie around this morning shows several Chinese suppliers I know of still have functioning web sites. Whilst this isn't good news for domestic Chinese folk, at least it doesn't seem to suggest Chinese exports are affected. Well, at least not yet. |
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Post by DaveJ on Nov 2, 2019 6:44:15 GMT
Addition to the above: from here: FT Forum threadOne of the FT staff Anniepan says: "Hello wetclay and other valued customers, It will not affect our website. Please don't worry. " Hopefully it really is that simple. |
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Post by DaveJ on Nov 2, 2019 6:09:24 GMT
I first saw this yesterday. I paused to see what might transpire. Today I saw further reporting of it so have decided to make mention here.
The original item I saw:
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-01/china-bans-online-sales-of-e-cigarettes-to-protect-adolescentsPartial quote:
Also reported by the NNA in their newsletter here: vapers.org.uk/vaping-digest-november-1st/Picked up by Reuters: hereNote within the following quote from the above Reuters report the words "temporary": From the Fasttech forums: www.fasttech.com/forums/shipping/t/3034292/china-bans-online-sales-of-e-cigarettes++++ Several immediate questions come to my mind - aside from the "Oh! F***!" response many of us might have. * Is this a ban only for "domestic" sales within China or for all sales including their vast overseas supply businesses? Think Health Cabin, Fasttech, 3FVape, etc..... * Is this just whole kits - or does it cover all "e-cig" related parts, spares, tanks, mods, wick, wire, etc. * Does this include e-cig related liquids? Remember, a good portion of the world's vaping nic is produced and supplied from within Asia. Sure, other places make "e-cig parts". But huge volumes of general purpose "mass market" vaper products are manufactured and supplied from China.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
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Post by DaveJ on Oct 27, 2019 9:18:47 GMT
I still wouldn't rule out the VG being the issue, try some 100% PG juice as an easy potential fix..
Yep. Exactly.
Only go to the coil and wicking if that VG/PG test doesn't sort things.
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Post by DaveJ on Oct 27, 2019 8:14:32 GMT
Who has a manual clock these days? The only one I have is on the car, and I don't touch it or look at it I do.
Several, in fact. All wall clocks and bedside alarm clocks in the house are manual (electric, plug in or battery, but manually set).
I do not wear a wrist watch and I do not carry a mobile (*). My car's clock is manually set.
I'm likely in the minority though. But I can't be the only one.
* I do own a mobile. An oldie that can make and receive calls. For emergencies. Bought so it could fit in the bike's seat pocket. NOT smart in anyway. Certainly no internet stuff.
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Post by DaveJ on Oct 27, 2019 6:25:30 GMT
hehe ^^^^ Serious question about the summer vs normal times thing - what ever you may call it over there. Here, some states move the clock forward one hour at the start of summer so evening is light later. They call it Day Light Savings. Again, at the end of summer, clocks are set back. Here, some states do it while some do not. My state, Western Australia, does not do it. And, in my state - not so sure about others - there are frequent arguments about the merits of the summer clock change and there's often some group or other re-raising the issue in the press - both for and against. How about over there? Is the subject and act of "Summer Time" generally accepted well or does it cause some argument between the sides? NOTE: I'm not trying to start a fight about it, I'm just asking what the story is over there. |
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Post by DaveJ on Oct 26, 2019 14:28:55 GMT
Ive emailed a few vape companies but most are not sure what metals are in their ecigs ...
Ah! Premade gear, commercial prebuilt coils.
Maybe you know a vaper who can rig up a couple of REBUILDABLE atties for you. Set one with, say, stainless coils and a second with Kanthal and put 'em to the test. There are other metals used, but there's a starting point.
Rinse and repeat with different wick materials - say cotton and rayon to start.
Those techie words may not mean a lot to you, but a face to face with an experienced vape hardware person - maybe in a *helpful* vape shop - would certainly know these things and hopefully would be able to help you thro the setup and testing.
Whilst I'm not saying you need to go into fully rebuildable gear permanently, I do suggest this as a possible means to help diagnose possible things that may be causing you grief.
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Post by DaveJ on Oct 25, 2019 8:42:14 GMT
You cut out PG, Flavours and Nic, is VG the elephant in the room. Seriously though VG intolerance it is far from unknown it's just less common than PG intolerance. These sh1t days you will have to mix your own liquid because clouds won over flavour and social responsibility (not fogging out the room). This.
Something about vaping is causing you grief.
So what are all the items that make up a vape that could affect you in this way?
The Coil and the Juice.
So - into smaller parts The coil = the wire. Have you tried a different metal (SS vs Kanthal or whatever) The wick = often cotton. Have you tried an alternative - like rayon?
The juice Nic VG PG Flavour And perhaps some distilled water too.
I think you've said you've eliminated most from the juice aspect - although as VapingBad suggests, it might be the VG. Try raw PG & nic as a test. (But be prepared - it'll be a harsh vape and you'll need to drink more water).
But you might also try changing the metal of the wire and also the wick material too. One change at a time.
Good luck with it.
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roll on next year 
