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Post by giles on May 31, 2013 9:02:02 GMT
Not only are we nice people on the forum we are nice in RL as well Very odd. And yes, more ecigs about. 1 brand in our nearby big Tescos 6 weeks ago, 3 now. (On the pharma counter ) They'll have CE4 blister packs soon.
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Post by giles on May 31, 2013 3:03:21 GMT
Since this thread comes up near the top if you google 'e cig griffin uk' and I'm not sure if anyone who replied actually had one, and I have, I thought I'd resurrect the thread.
It's my first mesh device, so I'm a novice. Only things I'll say about mesh are 1) yes, it does taste different to silica wick, and I think most people would say better - clearer, sharper taste; and 2) I didn't find it that hard to build - easier than a dual coil nova. My first build initially gave low res after one or two draws; take the top off it, poke it, and it was OK for a couple more - but then it settled down and is now OK and I am still vaping on it.
So, the Griffin (I believe the Vulcan is pretty much the same):
It is a mini DID, 16mm diameter, 53mm long excluding drip tip.
The holes on the top are small. I cut the mesh to the size recommended in the videos, but I then had to roll it as tight as possible to squeeze it through the hole. Probably more sensible to cut it smaller.
The hole for filling is also small - you need a needle tip bottle - a mixing-size syringe needle is too big.
The hole on the side (to let air in as you draw) is also fairly small. I drilled mine out a bit, but I bought it to get an airy vape and that was the plan all along.
They are available with a clear tank, but mine came with a steel one, which is stupid - you can't see how much juice you've got and the holes are so small you don't know what is happening when you fill it. I don't think you can buy a replacement tank in the UK (why I googled 'e cig griffin UK'). There is an outfit in the US which sells clear tanks for the Vulcan, but with the cost and the post you are not far off the price of a new one.
The screws are tiny and very fiddly. You have to take one out to refill it - for some reason it doesn't taste so good if you leave it out.
Am I glad I bought it, for all of £6 delivered? - Yes, because it introduced me to mesh, gave me something cheap enough to take a drill to, and hence the airy vape I sometimes like.
Would I recommend it? - No, not even with a clear tank, unless you have a mod with a diameter somewhere between an ego and an LT. It makes the ego look top heavy, and if you have something like a vamo you might as well get a fatter rebuildable (e.g. the aga recommended above), with sensible-sized holes and screws, which I assume would vape at least as well.
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Post by giles on May 31, 2013 0:26:55 GMT
any genesis style atty and drill the air hole to around 1.2 mm or larger Resurrecting an old thread to say thanks, punisher, did just that (thanks to a cheap classified) and it works a treat.
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Post by giles on May 30, 2013 23:42:42 GMT
Back on topic - I think you are close Andy. As others have said, probably a short in or between the coils. But the dual heads are a bit of a bugger. I've done a few now, normally about 1.8, but had one recently that came in at 1.1 or 1.2, so my vamo doesn't like it. Vapes great on my LT though, so I haven't bothered to recoil.
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Post by giles on May 30, 2013 23:25:34 GMT
Good choice. Yes, get two kits. Nice to have a second cartomiser anyway to put a different juice into. Only waste is the charger, and the deal is so cheap that that is covered.
So, now you have to think about juice. Not my personal area of expertise, but I'd guess that Paradise Vape are OK to start with, but neither the cheapest nor the best.
It is normally a good idea to have 2 or 3 different flavours to start, see what you like. We can advise on strength etc if you tell us how much you smoke of what, and any taste likes and dislikes.
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Post by giles on May 30, 2013 16:48:34 GMT
+1 for paradisevapeuk deal If you want something more up-market, www.ukecigcabin.com/product/kanger-evod-starter-kit or similar. NOT the protank - quality is variable, with some of them whistling very loud. I'm not a citrus user, so I don't know how these things will stand up to it.
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Post by giles on May 30, 2013 1:51:22 GMT
How long a wick lasts is very variable, depending on how you use them, how often you wash and dry-burn them, and how fussy you are. I guess about 3 weeks might be usual. I don't know what version the CE4s in your kit are. You can replace the heads on the V3 (also know as the stardust I think)- someone like www.digismoke.co.uk/ce4-head.html will sell you heads. Change instructions on their website, If you are talking about buying wick and wire and rebuilding the heads (a lot more fiddly but obviously much cheaper) then you need to look at a tutorial - maybe something like I haven't noticed anyone here who rebuilds CE4s. I don't think you can change the heads on earlier versions. If that is what you have you might prefer to get a mini Nova or Evod to replace it with when it dies.
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Post by giles on May 30, 2013 1:18:43 GMT
Look for 510 connections. In general there are two types of supplier - those who are basically trying to sell one type of cig-alike, and those who sell all sorts of stuff. The people on our discount list are the second type, most would not sell cartomisers which didn't have 510 connections, and all reply happily and pretty promptly to emails asking them questions. www.vapeescape.co.uk/510-pre-filled-cartridges-(5)~75 look reasonable. (You'll see vapeescape recommended often here because they are reasonably priced and reliable - but if you search you may well be able to get a better price). Get a bottle of juice as well and try topping up the cartomisers when they start to run out. You can't re-use them for ever, but they will last a couple of weeks or more. Even if you don't want to do that now, don't throw your old cartomisers away. You may change your mind later.
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Post by giles on May 30, 2013 0:49:57 GMT
Thanks for the link DiscoDes. The rolling method won't work on my DID clone - the holes are very small (I might end up drilling them out, but that is another story). But heating the mesh using the coil, rather than over a flame, is interesting. My (current) theory is that resistance goes down because the mesh isn't properly oxidised, and so the coils are shorting on the mesh. If my theory is right, and Hifistud's method is good, then my set-up should improve over time. This does indeed appear to be happening. Next time I shall oxidise the mesh over a flame and dry burn it. Belt and braces, me.
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Post by giles on May 29, 2013 23:45:20 GMT
Crossed post. Skycig are 510 (unless they have changed recently), so you could get cartomisers elsewhere. I don't know that start pack but I doubt if you would get a battery case for £10. I'd go for the vapeescape kit rather than skycig because you get two batteries rather than one. If you are serious about giving up smoking always carry at least one spare. Spare cartomiser too. With the discount allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/1148/cigarette-liquid-vendors-discount-codes and cheaper postage it's a better deal even if you don't buy a couple of spare cartomisers while you are there.
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Post by giles on May 29, 2013 23:34:11 GMT
The ecig wizard kit comes with empty cartridges, not pre-filled. What you are calling a cartridge is actually a cartomiser by the way - "cartridge" can mean something different. One kit which comes with prefilled is www.vapeescape.co.uk/ritchy-era-510-starter-kit~429 I would buy batteries and cartomisers with 510 connectors. That way you are not tied in to one supplier. The range of flavours available in pre-filled is limited, but I suspect that is true of pretty much everybody. Buying pre-filled is expensive and drastically limits your choice of flavours. It is really easy to fill your own. Even topping up pre-filled will halve the cost. There are lots of videos telling you how - one at www.vapeescape.co.uk/boge-510-standard-resistance-%285%29~145I did my first 6 weeks or so on cig-alikes. The people who say bigger batteries are better are right, but cig-sized batteries are OK if you have enough of them. I wound up with 6 and two chargers.
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Post by giles on May 29, 2013 19:41:49 GMT
Got 15 of them now and still no problems but i re-wick them all, never used the ghastly coils that come with them 15 ??? You juggle 15 flavours? Starting a shop? Have 2, both fine except they don't have 510 connectors. Prefer my dual coil novas at home, but the evods look neat on a spinner for out & about. Haven't needed to rewick yet.
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Post by giles on May 29, 2013 14:09:05 GMT
Well, I found out what the mesh fanciers are on about, which was the object of the exercise, and worth the £6. The DID didn't work as supplied. The centre post had been screwed hard down onto the base, crushing the washer round to the outside of it, preventing connection with the centre pin of the battery and causing a short against the base. It came without drip tip or allen key - maybe that's how brysoni23 got it - fortunately I have both things. I assembled it and coiled the mesh. I don't know what the wire was that brysoni23 sent but it took about 8 turns to get something the vamo didn't call 'Lo' Then it worked fine - beautiful in fact - for about 30 seconds, then vamo says Lo again. Take the top off, poke it a bit, goes back to 1.3, vape a couple of draws, Lo again. Brysoni also supplied the mesh - might that be the problem?
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Post by giles on May 29, 2013 11:22:56 GMT
No, came apart OK, even went back together again Now to see if I can wick this thing (first time with mesh).
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Post by giles on May 29, 2013 10:52:49 GMT
Yes, got mine this morning. Also not cleaned, not even that empty. Might have had trouble getting it open - this is the first of these I've had, so not too sure yet how it all works.
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