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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 18, 2013 21:24:12 GMT
ok, well I was just wanting to know how to get the right answers in the right places. I have found that many vendors have PG only left in stock and was trying to make the best of a bad situation. Was hoping to eek a few more percentage points in my favour. I don't like PG as much as VG and sadly I can't even get a 30/70 to work in the calcs. I also read that some makers are starting to make the flavour with VG too. Maybe there will be hope if/when more of that happens. Sorry for making life difficult, it was not my intention at all. If EJMU tells you that you can't do a mix at a certain ratio, that is because you can't, not the calc being awkward. alchemists cupboard sells nic base in VG, so does cig-eliquid. With a VG base you can do 30/70 easy peasy, even 20/80. You won't get much better than that unless you can find vg flavours, or tell ejmu that they are VG. Thanks very much for that tip, I shall have to grab it from there, and although the prices are a bit more, it is 72mg and so could go further. I guess it's all a bit swings and roundabouts.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 18, 2013 16:58:20 GMT
You lot have lead me a merry dance! And I thank you all so much for it, it's been a fun read tracking down the possibilities you raised! Had me looking so much deeper into flavours. ok, I'm out of my depth of course but it was fascinating all the same. My brain hurts, can I go home now?
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 17, 2013 15:16:11 GMT
ok, well I was just wanting to know how to get the right answers in the right places. I have found that many vendors have PG only left in stock and was trying to make the best of a bad situation. Was hoping to eek a few more percentage points in my favour. I don't like PG as much as VG and sadly I can't even get a 30/70 to work in the calcs. I also read that some makers are starting to make the flavour with VG too. Maybe there will be hope if/when more of that happens. Sorry for making life difficult, it was not my intention at all.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 17, 2013 11:47:04 GMT
Have a look here. Most flavours I believe, are PG based. If you look through the recipes in the Mixology board, it will specify the brand of flavours needed. Once you have mixed a few of them, you will have a good feeling for them and your personal preferences. Now that link takes me to something truly beyond my wildest dreams or expectations! Armed with that one would be able to adequately fill out the calculators questions with some confidence! Now if they could do it then so could any other maker! So, guess who's flavours I'll be considering top of my shopping list then! LOL By properly supporting us like that then they enable us to support them because we are able to make an informed purchase decision, and that is to their advantage.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 17, 2013 10:33:07 GMT
Not sure what you're getting at...my flavourings usually just come with a label stating the brand name and flavour name, occasionally with instructions for storage. It's generally the case that flavourings are PG unless otherwise stated. As for ingredients in flavourings, you'd need to ask the manufacturer. I think there are some docs floating around somewhere with manufacturing info, Kev at Alchemist's Cupboard has done some sterling work on that front IIRC. There's also a list of known tank crackers around too. Is that the sort of thing you're after? No, not really; the quest was triggered by the fact that the calculators ask us what pg/vg a given flavour has, and so we need to know this as we all rather depend on these calcs, and they in turn depend on having the info fed in to them. It seemed like a glaring omission that we potentially had no hard info to type in if we were attempting to make a potential new recipe. I would imagine the labels should at least mention that little (how else to obtain the numbers to put into the calcs?), but I don't have any flavours yet so can't look at one to see, and therefore can't even get started with making a proper potential recipe, never mind buying the flavours for it. It is conceivable that certain mixes can not actually be made, and so it would be good to have the calculator tell us this in advance of making an ultimately pointless purchase. If you knew a recipe was viable then you'd presumably be in good shape to buy in ingredients and set about making the mix based upon it.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 17, 2013 10:01:48 GMT
I was just thinking we could use some notes on flavours we are all using and what they are made up from. I am having the toughest time looking up potential new flavours and finding out what they contain. Now this is fine for the makers and the sellers as it leaves a newbie in the position of buying some to find out and maybe not even finding out if they did buy it if the label is poor in information content! All I would like is a glimpse of the label; then I'd be allowed to know if it's PG or VG or both and perhaps whether it's got tank cracking potential. Unless of course they don't feel inclined to share any information, and if that were so then I'd not feel inclined to support that business model by buying some as I'd have no way to get any idea where I stand with that product would I? At least not enough to make any kind of informed purchase decision. (sorry if that sounds a tiny bit grumpy, but getting it right costs a little sometimes!) So I was thinking why not all of us spend a moment or two as we go along, and post an image of that label, or type up what it says. ok, it would need keeping up to date, as I am sure recipes change from time to time, but over time it could become a priceless resource to mixers, and save all of us much time and trouble while researching a new mix prior to jumping in and buying some. As a group we could choose to be solidly constructive and mutually supportive in that way!
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 16, 2013 23:19:58 GMT
Hi all, I used to like my Gold Blend black and with a little demerara, given diabetes I cant do that as freely as I would like these days. I would love to figure out how to get that flavour in a vape, even with zero nic to be honest. Where on earth would I start? I don't know a lot about what makes Gold Blend taste how it does and I can't see Nestle volunteering too much info either! Could it be done?
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 16, 2013 20:57:43 GMT
Ok thanks for all your help. I think I've decided on the Evod plus a spinner. Very helpful video for refilling carts! Didnt know you could do that. Now I think I've worked out that mods are models? But what on earth is an atty? Well chosen that person! I'm only 3 weeks off smoking today, and I've spent a fair bit of time, effort and cash correcting my first (poor) kit choice. I've bought some fairly hefty kit now, and am very happy indeed with that, but last week I also went for an evod (top only) to make better use of the eGo batts I already have left over from the kit. I also have an eGo twist, which is simply another brand of your chosen spinner! I got to say they make a very nice easy to carry around set up for when I am not able to be enjoying the bigger rig in comfort and indoors. I think you made a really good choice there and will find it to be like night and day once you got it all up and running nicely. Finding a flavour or two is not quite so easy, look out for sample sizes to start out with! They are 5ml in many places and can be even less or so I have read. I was buying 10ml at first and that can be an expensive way to sample things, especially if you are not that struck with the one you just got! LOL Good luck, first few purchases are the most dangerous ones, and the decisions the hardest to make! Gets easier as you go along and gain some experience. Good lord did I just type that? Almost sounds like someone making sense, and that just can't be me can it, after only 21 days? LOL
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 15, 2013 23:52:42 GMT
Did this small message on the homepage not help Malibu I tried but it won't let me, complains I already exist! Grrr.. <shrug> Bit late for an April Fools gag really! LOL Wot a swizz! LOL
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 15, 2013 22:06:24 GMT
Well, first part is done, followed Dragon's advice and grabbed a whole bunch of bottles I spotted on Amazon. Amber glass, glass droppers, 10x10, 5x30 and 5x100 ml. That should cover most things for quite a while to come I think! If you like your glass bottles (as do I), you could always check out these guys. Very good they are, but you have to get a fair few to justify the P&P I always find myself in need of more 10ml bottles for those first experimental mixes! I only make 30ml of ones that turn out nice ok, thanks very much for that link, looks interesting! I figured to get 10 small ones but only 5 of each of the larger sizes. I will still want to get some 5ml samples bottles, and plastic will do fine for making up early flavour only samples I'd imagine. Or at least that is my plan for now! LOL
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 15, 2013 15:53:11 GMT
Well, first part is done, followed Dragon's advice and grabbed a whole bunch of bottles I spotted on Amazon. Amber glass, glass droppers, 10x10, 5x30 and 5x100 ml. That should cover most things for quite a while to come I think!
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 15, 2013 13:01:05 GMT
I must be proper Royal having a Pila...which I don`t use now n favour of the Xtar with charging display....ooer !! it`s all what gets you through in the end without worrying isn`t it.... Edit: buy what you can afford, not the absolute cheapest - and you can`t go too far wrong. Xtar, snap! LOL :DVP1?
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 15, 2013 12:57:23 GMT
Red light charging, green light and a hum charged....slight orange glow, fetch fire extinguisher Joking...before anyone has a fit about getting burned alive. Given the anecdotal reports, I am a bit suspicious of anything for charging these things having the word "fire" in it's name! LOL
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 15, 2013 12:54:08 GMT
Posh gits lol I stick with my no frills trusty trustfire charger. Red light charging, green light and a hum charged. I made quite a mess of buying my first kit and the chargers I "elected" to buy for that - I was rewarded by terrible performance, that very nearly made me give vaping a miss altogether. So I sort of bought my way out of trouble, went with a vamo which has helped hugely, and spent the extra fiver on the next battery charger up - was well worth the extra bit of cash and trouble that time! Spesh if one gets to be called a posh git, fair made my day, as that does not happen all that often in my neighbourhood!
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 15, 2013 12:47:37 GMT
Yes, quite! I used BattUni for the NiMH debacle and I am nearly over that after a year or three, just not quite ready for another bucket full of that stuff yet as I have my hands and head full with learning in general about vaping! Got mixing to learn a bit about first, but once I got a mix I can vape all day then I'll maybe feel a bit more like it I guess! Then again there is wicking still to learn as well LOL
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