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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 15, 2012 20:28:09 GMT
daily mail pictures a ciggie likey....but was he using this or a mod? A mod according to ECF and the fire chief in charge of the situation. CR123 cells I think. |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 15, 2012 18:19:52 GMT
i thought bp just meant boot pharmacist.....as in the vg they sell does pharma grade mean its been mixed and transported in containers that wont react badly to it and its basicly sterilised or clean? It means it has gone through further purification processes which then allow it to be used as a pharmaceutical product, food grade being the next step down on the ladder followed by industry grade. Personally in the case of PG (and any other chemical/compound) I find the grading system abhorrent. PG is a noun not an adjective, if it was called ''vaping fluid'' then it could contain all manner of things but PG shouldn't be anything else other than PG, what I mean is, BP grade (or pure)should be the only one which exists, IMO of course. I studied chemistry for a while, this is the only reason why this bothers me I think. |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 15, 2012 15:03:55 GMT
as long as it is BP grade it should all be near as damn it the same stuff... in theory all PG should be the same stuff no matter what grade it is... Unfortunately some contains impurities... this may or may not make much difference.
The mistral stuff should be ok (but the other link is considerably cheaper for the quantity you want and would/should be equally as good)
Some nic bases can be a bit dodgy and smell funny or be a bit orange/yellow... I have had some which is pretty stinky and yellow but it vaped fine @18mg.
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 12, 2012 23:10:10 GMT
It is just more propaganda spread by the idiots about the evil nicotine.. coffee however stains like a right wotsit, I am not convinced by all this talk of caffeine stains either though  |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 11, 2012 17:59:29 GMT
That is a CE2 carto (or found more commonly in clearo form) You will need a needle (bottle or syringe) or spikey thing (TM ) You can also remove the ring you see there (it will be pretty hard to remove, be careful not to tug at the coil) to fill without any needle. Just drip the liquid down the [in]side of the carot (EDIT: or carto even )once that ring is removed. When you put the cover in your picture back on (if you choose to remove it)just make sure it goes back on the right way round (you will see what I mean when you take it off ) |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 10, 2012 23:18:44 GMT
you will grow horns and start mooing seriously though, it is used to treat ketosis is cattle (amongst other things) and it is sold as ketosis treatment in our local MSF or whatever they are called these days Do you know if it is pharmaceutical grade? Or if it is normal practice for veterinary treatments to be BP I wouldn't like to say as I wouldn't want you to come over all bovine I would bet the farm it is food grade (as it is fed to cattle, or rather used in cattle food storage AFAIK) as regulations for animals in most cases are more stringent than for people, but as for being pharma grade I don't think this would be required (in this application) as in this example it wouldn't be classed as a pharmaceutical product... To treat ketosis though I think it would be classed as a pharmaceutical product if it was a human application (therefore it would legally need to be BP grade) Take from that what you will, if animal rights activists found out it was being used and it wasn't BP grade they would kick up a stink I would imagine, that doesn't mean it isn't happening though. That was quiet a finger work out. |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 10, 2012 23:00:17 GMT
you will grow horns and start mooing seriously though, it is used to treat ketosis is cattle (amongst other things) and it is sold as ketosis treatment in our local MSF or whatever they are called these days |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 10, 2012 19:39:24 GMT
ok my neighbour is trying an ecig for the first time and has just popped in to say he might be overdoing it with the vaping (already said drink more etc) now he reckons it may be too strong 11mg he normally smokes superking menthol about 20 per day. Would i be right in putting 5 ml of 80 to 85% vg and the rest in either vodka or di ionised into a 10 ml bottle and put 5 ml of his 11 mg menthol into the same 10 ml bottle to become 5.5mg of admitedly a muted version of his 11mg menthol wich i must say was very strong (mentholy that is) sounds about right. what makes him think he is overdoing it? |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 10, 2012 19:24:40 GMT
Cool thanks for that  that's a great saving. Would I still need to dilute if mixing with PG? Depends how thick you want it and how much PG you are using Some systems work better with slightly thicker liquid (they leak/flood less) some won't wick if it is too thick Experiment, or use some judgement... do you experience leaks/flooding with what you use at the moment? if not then you can (if you want)dilute with vodka or distilled/deionised water @ about 15%.... if you aren't having leaking/flooding problems and you don't dilute then you won't definitely have wicking problems, but you might... I could go on about the visa/versa situation, but I won't. I used (modified) CE2's and don't need to dilute it at all except for the PG in my nicotine. |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 8, 2012 19:50:33 GMT
Thats interesting Tom, and I see what you mean.. makes sense. hmm.. good point about the difference in strengths of flavour for the different method too (finding a balance) which would be pretty difficult..though I guess with a nic free ejuice there wouldnt be as much need to be concerned if I get quite a bit in my mouth (which Ive managed to do a few times so far) I wouldn't worry at all about getting it in your mouth... even if you were vaping 36mg/ml you would need to drink 2ml of it straight down before you needed to even consider worrying. The lethal dose for an adult is said to be 64mg... this will likely be much higher if you are a regular nicotine user (I assume this is the case ) and also this is a lethal absorption dose and not all the ''imaginary'' 2ml of 36mg/ml you have drink will be absorbed You would much more likely need to drink at least 5ml of 36mg/ml straight off (not over the day) to do you any harm.... don't go testing the theory though |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 8, 2012 19:29:20 GMT
lick your lips if you want, I do The problem you will find with the question you are asking is that the flavour strength required to vape is many orders of magnitude greater than you would find in most ''drinks''. What I mean is.... when you vape you are ''consuming'' (estimated) 0.01ml per draw.... this needs to taste of something.... if you were to drink the same juice the taste would be overpowering and not all together pleasant (IMO)... If you were to go the other way (and have a juice flavoured correctly to drink) then when you vaped it there would be no taste... By all means try it but I don't think you will find a balance which works.... On a side note (although connected), if you want to use ejuice flavouring concentrates to flavour food or drink then this works quiet well... vodka/lager/cider with blackcurrant flavouring concentrate for example... the problem would come when you tried to vape it |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 7, 2012 20:06:06 GMT
I have heard that ''primer fluid'' is nothing other than plain PG which has been sat there for a while, it would make sense since that is all that would be needed to stop the corrosion which I assume this fluid is attempting to stop..
Like I said, it is just what I heard, I am just glad I have never experienced it.
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 7, 2012 17:10:50 GMT
chances are the juice will contain more VG, that stuff hangs about for ages.... blow some slowly without inhaling onto a kitchen work surface or table (even the floor if you want to get down there ) it will hang about for ages like a cheap horror film |
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Post by tommk3cab on Feb 2, 2012 18:40:19 GMT
I was having trouble accessing UKV a few days ago, could be totally unrelated.
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that's a great saving.