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Ahh I see! My bad - for me the depression and anxiety go hand in hand and always have, so I forget they can be separate things aswell. You're most probably right tho about depression being a common side effect to stopping. You'd never guess it from the peeps here tho!

I think you may be onto something there, about the relationship you have to whatever you're addicted to making a difference. I'm hoping against hope that my anxiety doesn't get too bad again as a result of stopping as it can make me really quite ill. That's why I'm taking it so slow.

So glad you're having a better day anyway! Btw, what's WTA liquid? ???

@alopezg1 Hi there

I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your candour about the difficulties you're experiencing. I know all about anxiety and depression, I've been a sufferer for years and I know full well how easy it can be for stuff to get on top of you. It's hard enough to give up smoking for most folk, but add difficulties such as these into the mix and it can turn into a real nightmare.

I see you're looking for practical solutions to your difficulties with the actual vaping, and I'll leave others who are much better qualified and experienced on here to advise you there. I've found that the people here really do know what they're talking about and can offer excellent guidance with such things so you've come to the right place for that! So firstly, kudos for seeking that help!

I have undying admiration for anyone who's actually given up analogues and my heart always goes out to those who are trying and not quite cracked it yet. I guess fall into the latter category too. IMO it's perfectly natural, especially for people with these illnesses, to feel a bit sorry for ourselves at times and get down about it all. We can tend to beat ourselves up over things that have a bit of a learning curve or that we need practice at if they don't go right for us.

When that happens to me, what I try to do is take a wee step back take a deep breath, and just take the pressure off myself if I can. If I'm frustrated and fed up that I can't seem to manage the things others are achieving, well... I just let myself feel that way, accept that today's not the day it's gonna happen for me, have a bit of a grump, and leave it be. Because tomorrow's another day. Next week might be different. Nothing ever lasts forever, bad times included and we're always in a state of flux.

I think sometimes we tend to expect too much of ourselves too quickly. I get soooo impatient when I can't get things right straight away, let alone something that can take a while to get the hang of - or indeed something that is like a journey, as this seems to be, that has steps and different challenges to negotiate along the way. We can forget to look back and see how far we've already come.

So with all that in mind, well done you, for having gone without the cigs you already have! Well done for the attempts! Well done for having the will to give it a go so many times and for keeping trying when you've fallen short of where you want to eventually be. Well done for weathering those stumbles! That takes guts! Take heart from that.

Give yourself a break and a bit of love. It's tough to do what you're trying to do. Softly softly catchey monkey.

All the best,

MissT

So I went along to the dentist yesterday, and she said, as far as the BMA was concerned, they couldn't comment because there hasn't been time to do trials about long term effects of ecigs. So as far as she was concerned, 'officially' she couldn't say anything about it. But 'unofficially' she said from what she could see, it was obviously better than smoking, so go for it!! And that was nice to hear

She also clarified that it's the tar that does the damage rather than the nicotine, and as you guys have said, that the nic will lower the blood flow to gums, so should be avoided in case of surgery needed. (Good suggestion Clivia to vape 0% juice at those times )

I said I'd bring my kit in for her to see next visit, she was curious what it looked like and how it worked We had quite a good convo about it all between us - (2 dentists and a nurse this time) and I was telling them about all the people here who'd shared their dental experiences and how many had said their teeth and gums had improved. It was cool

Thanks so much every one for commenting, long may our 'pearly whites' shine!!

MissT

Ok so I'm playing with my new 306 dripping atty and I've got a juice on it that tastes lovely but the throat hit is soooo strong I can't handle it at all.  I want to get the juice off without vaping any more of it. I've run it under the tap and been pulsing the coil for ages but it's still giving off loads of vapour.  What should I do?

Ooh, that sounds encouraging too collie2011! I never thought about the tongue being affected too, of course it must be with stinkies eh? Great stuff

captainbongo I've a way to go before I can tick that box I think, but I'm ever hopeful It will be a sweet moment for you tho for sure!