Where's everyone getting Nic base from?

[robby]

Jan 20, 2013 17:21:27 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

Jan 20, 2013 17:07:54 GMT robby said:

I know you have to be careful with it, but it is not beyond anyone with a bit of common sense and loads of rubber gloves

From UKV Moderator:

A single ml of 98% nicotine has 980mg of nicotine, making it many times a lethal dose, even by skin absorption, so potentially a few drops on the skin could be fatal. It may even be possible to OD by inhalation of the fumes from an open bottle. The website doesn't even give any significant warning about how dangerous this stuff is, nor how to handle it safely. Clearly, this is not something that anyone should have in their home as dangerous amounts may easily be transferred by contact, such as the outside of the pipette used to transfer it.

If ever there was a vaping product that was likely to result in accidental deaths, this is it, in fact given the toxicity of pure nicotine, it almost guarantees it. None of us have any desire to assist someone buying a product that is this dangerous.

Please do not buy pure nicotine, or promote irresponsible places where it is sold; asides from being illegal in the UK.
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I am not advocating anyone else does this, but looking at the price of 99.9% nicotine and how much you can make with 10ml of it there are some amazing profits going to be made at some of the prices I have seen for 75mg base.

[lobeydosser]

So who sells full strength nicotine?

[robby]

I dont think I can tell you lobey. Wouldnt want to be accused of aiding and abetting anyone break the law

[Postmodern Smoking]

Jan 20, 2013 17:24:43 GMT robby said:

I am not advocating anyone else does this, but looking at the price of 99.9% nicotine and how much you can make with 10ml of it there are some amazing profits going to be made at some of the prices I have seen for 75mg base.

Is it really worth the risk of 1/ breaking the law 2/having something as toxic as that around, 3/risking ANY mishandling accident.
As a reputable company wouldn't sell that strength, can you really trust their product? i.e. is it pesticide grade or pharma grade??

I strongly advise against it Robby, and I'm not saying that because I sell nicotine!

[sarahthesinger]

Forgive my bluntness Robby, but I think you'd be pretty stupid to try and get pure nicotine. Unless of course you have your own chemistry lab with a fume cupboard, a full hazard suit, an autoclave for cleaning off your equipment and an emergency biohazard shower in case you get splashed.

Read that earlier post about how hazardous that stuff is. Then read it again.

I know we all like to save money. That's why I'm mixing my own juices. But as I can now make juices for way under a quid for 10ml that's enough. It's not worth the risk to save a few extra pennies.

[robby]

Jan 20, 2013 17:38:15 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

Jan 20, 2013 17:24:43 GMT robby said:

I am not advocating anyone else does this, but looking at the price of 99.9% nicotine and how much you can make with 10ml of it there are some amazing profits going to be made at some of the prices I have seen for 75mg base.

Is it really worth the risk of 1/ breaking the law 2/having something as toxic as that around, 3/risking ANY mishandling accident.
As a reputable company wouldn't sell that strength, can you really trust their product? i.e. is it pesticide grade or pharma grade??

I strongly advise against it Robby, and I'm not saying that because I sell nicotine!

It`s Pharma grade, I am not going to pay the rediculous prices being asked for base nicotine. It will be stored until the time comes(if necessary) and I can buy fresh PG/VG. I have all the necessary things to do it safely and carefully. End of conversation.

[Postmodern Smoking]

For further information on the subject: ukvapers.org/Thread-Buying-Pure-Nicotine

[mzal]

The LD50 (Lethal Dose 50% - i.e. the level at which half of an affected group will likely die) nicotine dose for an adult human being is around 60mg. This is all in one go as nicotine degrades in the system quickly. This will be a bit higher for people who are regularly using nicotine but with liquid that is 999mg per ml it would not take much to be splashed on skin or in the eye or even soaked through clothing if spilled to be very nasty. I don't know if there are fumes off a bottle of pure nicotine but it would not take much if there were. I think more than just gloves goggles and an apron would be needed for using it at this strength. I would only consider using this if i had a proper lab facilities, hazmat type suit wash down facilities etc but if you have access to all these things and are not bothered by the legalities then im sure you will save a lot of money.

[Karma]

Jan 20, 2013 17:42:43 GMT robby said:

End of conversation.

I'm pleased this conversation has ended. Can I just point out that as per no6 of the TOS, discussion of illegal activities are prohibited

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=help&thread=5100&page=1#115094

[Perpetua]

And I strongly advise anyone reading this thread, from even contemplating similar, not only is it illegal if you don't have a Poison's Licence . . . but it's extremely hazardous and not worth taking the risk on a number of levels.

Be satisfied with what we can legally obtain to make our own eliquid, it's more than adequate for the home mixer's needs.

[sarahthesinger]

Perps, feel free to delete the thread if you think it will avoid anyone even considering using such high nic concentrations. Only a trained chemist with a lab should attempt it. I've got all the info I needed and have bought my 75mg nic base (which I'm using with caution, gloves and an apron!), so I'll leave it to your discretion.

StS

[Perpetua]

Thanks Sarah, it would be a shame to delete it I think, as there is some good info on here, that could be beneficial to someone starting out.

The warnings also serve a purpose as well I think?

Let's see how the thread progresses, if at all . . . and if needs be I'll lock it.

[gillas]

i found a site in China that could supply a litre of 36mg Pharma grade unflavoured (they had flavoured too) for just over $27 - fantastic price

Only problem was $50 postage, still cheap for 1 1/2 litres of 24mg when diluted

I opted to order 75mg from NicVape in the end, mainly due to the delay with it being Chinese New Year

[deesigner]

Nicvape do a 100mg too, I was wondering about that, there must be a difference?

[Perpetua]

You can't buy & import that strength into the UK Dee, it's illegal without a Poison's Licence . . . and Rich won't send it to you if you're in the UK.