Don't Pay With Paypal F&F HORROR !!!!

[chrisjw]

Jan 17, 2015 0:14:04 GMT macmagoo said:

Friends and Family is exactly what it says. Even although we are on this forum most of us don't know anything about each other so why would you pay using F & F.

That is one of the bonuses of going to AAEC meets & Vapefest.........You get to meet fellow forum members.................




"Life...........is just a bowl of tricks!!!!!!"

[chrisjw]

Jan 17, 2015 0:54:02 GMT macmagoo said:

The reason I commented is because F & F is banned on most of the forums I frequent.

One very good reason why I, personally, don't spread myself across multiple forums....................




"Life...........is just a bowl of tricks!!!!!!"

[thejester]

f+f has its place.....its something that can save you a few quid and reputation is everything over on ukv i think....just cos they 'say' you cant do it doesnt stop it from happening with at leadt 25% of transactions id say....having been a member on there for years and built up a good rep you get to know who you can trust or not.

just because the rule is in place doesnt mean it cant be abused...or used as i think its a good tool to use with someone you trust.

Rich is a good guy and feel sorry for him...the other guy is a complete tool for not using correct postage in the first place and even more for not sorting the problem...even if it was his mrs its still his responsibility

[Ripshod]

If it was indeed actually posted in the first place

[chrisjw]

Jan 17, 2015 2:36:50 GMT thatguy said:

Greg , you are the last person who should have any complaint about the tone of peoples replies. Your own posts have a habit of being argumentative and at times even offensive. I have resisted the urge to post on this subject for months but get a grip and treat other people well if you expect them to treat you well.

Guess this will be my last post here as everyone you bitch at ends up banned.

You may agree or disagree with posts, but your replies tend to cause drama, and not intelligent conversation.

Sorry for the rant but it had to be said before more members are driven away.

The majority of members who are no longer on this forum, are not "driven away", they are absent because of trouble making, bullying, offensive behaviour & numpty remarks, I think you'll find.............Fortunately, for them, they can choose other forums to frequent if they wish...............



"Life...........is just a bowl of tricks!!!!!!"

[profbeard]

Jan 17, 2015 14:00:50 GMT Chrissie said:

I'm kind of finding this whole discussion rather ironic UKV do have the rule that members can't use F&F yet the OP of this thread is about a member on there that did so

Thank Chrissie - not only is the use of f&f clearly "banned" in UKV Classifieds Rules, but there is a big sticky at the top of the classifieds sales forum warning about it:

ukvapers.org/Thread-FINAL-WARNING-PLEASE-READ-PayPal-Gift-in-Classifieds--25012

[thejester]

a point to maybe note too is the gear that is getting sold on UKV....

like it or not but the clones have gotten so good in these days that ukv banned there sale.....so its generally higher end gear that is getting sold...i always send first recorded but that only gives you cover up to £50....given the cost of high end gear it will usually be special delivery that is required in order to cover the value should it get lost.....so to skimp to such a degree is in my mind disgraceful on such priced items.


this though still skirts the issue that the buyer was naive (sorry rich), and the seller was naive daft enough to post without any protection...

POTV are a great bunch and will be starting a whip round...but again it doesnt make the actions right

[Deleted]

Jan 17, 2015 15:48:58 GMT thejester said:

a point to maybe note too is the gear that is getting sold on UKV....

like it or not but the clones have gotten so good in these days that ukv banned there sale.....so its generally higher end gear that is getting sold...i always send first recorded but that only gives you cover up to £50....given the cost of high end gear it will usually be special delivery that is required in order to cover the value should it get lost.....so to skimp to such a degree is in my mind disgraceful on such priced items.


this though still skirts the issue that the buyer was naive (sorry rich), and the seller was naive daft enough to post without any protection...

POTV are a great bunch and will be starting a whip round...but again it doesnt make the actions right

The last comment .... really warms my heart. That's great to hear, well done you lot. We vapers should run the world!

[amygx]

That's just darn right dishonest and disgusting. I wonder if the buyer can put in a paypal claim, if the seller has indeed lost the receipt and can't prove it was even sent then paypal would refund the buyer no problem, unless you can't claim under friends and family :\

Also check the payment emails and account details to get the sellers address and pay him a "friendly" visit

*Knock Knock*
"Yes,  can I help you?."
"Special delivery for Mr Scum Bag."
"Yes that's me."
*Punch*
"Sign here!."

[thejester]

Jan 17, 2015 16:00:33 GMT amygx said:

That's just darn right dishonest and disgusting. I wonder if the buyer can put in a paypal claim, if the seller has indeed lost the receipt and can't prove it was even sent then paypal would refund the buyer no problem, unless you can't claim under friends and family :\

Also check the payment emails and account details to get the sellers address and pay him a "friendly" visit

*Knock Knock*
"Yes,  can I help you?."
"Special delivery for Mr Scum Bag."
"Yes that's me."
*Punch*
"Sign here!."

cant claim if F+F has been used which to be blunt is the whole point of the thread......he has 8 rep points and to what i can see only 2 are a result of a sale...his profile is still active whilst this is ongoing and still hope this may get resolved...if not just for rich but for the community as a whole


POTV a great bunch of people thats for sure

[Deleted]

Jan 17, 2015 15:48:58 GMT thejester said:

a point to maybe note too is the gear that is getting sold on UKV....

like it or not but the clones have gotten so good in these days that ukv banned there sale.....so its generally higher end gear that is getting sold...i always send first recorded but that only gives you cover up to £50....given the cost of high end gear it will usually be special delivery that is required in order to cover the value should it get lost.....so to skimp to such a degree is in my mind disgraceful on such priced items.


this though still skirts the issue that the buyer was naive (sorry rich), and the seller was naive daft enough to post without any protection...

POTV are a great bunch and will be starting a whip round...but again it doesnt make the actions right

Yea I pop over to UKV to shift my clones, no ones said nought yet........  

[macmagoo]

They don't normally say anything but if you post an add with a named clone they normally just delete it.

[Deleted]

No don't put clone in the title, you will get less money.

[Greg]

Jan 17, 2015 20:57:39 GMT @letsavit said:

No don't put clone in the title, you will get less money.

[Tom]

I think we have a pretty top notch forum here.

Most of the members I deal with, I feel like I know, even if never met.

Just remember that not all members have been here a long time and we know from experience, while they may be very few, there are scoundrels out there.