Nicotine reduction

[tim]

My wife just asked me why she is using her vape constantly lately, thinking that she maybe needed to up the nic content in the juice. We both vape at 3.5mg now, so I asked her to try some juice that was left over from an old 7mg mix. She felt ill almost instantly. Funny at the time (for me), but it shows that reduction works.

I just wanted to note how nicotine messes with our brains.



There is a thread about nic reduction somewhere else, but I couldn't find it. Sorry mods

[Perpetua]

Apr 23, 2016 22:04:59 GMT tim said:

There is a thread about nic reduction somewhere else, but I couldn't find it. Sorry mods

This one tim?

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/19407/quitting-nic-cig-discussion-thread?page=1

6mg does me nicely at home subohming . . . . at work, then 12mg.

Although some shifts, 36mg wouldn't go amiss.

[tim]

Apr 23, 2016 22:11:49 GMT Perpetua said:

Apr 23, 2016 22:04:59 GMT tim said:

There is a thread about nic reduction somewhere else, but I couldn't find it. Sorry mods

This one tim ?

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/19407/quitting-nic-cig-discussion-thread?page=1

6mg does me nicely at home subohming . . . . at work, then 12mg.

Although some shifts, 36mg wouldn't go amiss.

Yea that's the one, feel free to move it......

[VapingBad]

I find I just vape more when I reduce my nic, so gets more expensive for DIY, but still not expensive if you follow me. I have just lowered again as I am vaping at higher wattages with more airflow, which I find the key factor in which nic level works for me. But we are all different and as usual whatever works is the right thing.

I trust you didn't need to get the hover out tim

[Perpetua]

It's all good tim.

[Greg]

I found small reductions is the best way to go, 1mg reduction a month worked for me and I've now been on zero for months and don't crave nic at all. My wife is also on zero nic and has been for months too although I only recently told her. Maybe it's all in the mind !

[djs]

Apr 23, 2016 22:11:49 GMT Perpetua said:

6mg does me nicely at home subohming . . . . at work, then 12mg.

Although some shifts, 36mg wouldn't go amiss.

Bingo.

I tried some 1.5mg t'other day. I vaped solidly for 55 miles and needed to find a bottle of 16mg from the supermarket.

I'm not sure it was the lack of Nic' or the total absence of anything 'hitting' my airways. It was like vaping nothing... warm nothing...

[Perpetua]

Apr 23, 2016 22:56:19 GMT djs said:

Apr 23, 2016 22:11:49 GMT Perpetua said:

6mg does me nicely at home subohming . . . . at work, then 12mg.

Although some shifts, 36mg wouldn't go amiss.

Bingo.

I tried some 1.5mg t'other day. I vaped solidly for 55 miles and needed to find a bottle of 16mg from the supermarket.

I'm not sure it was the lack of Nic' or the total absence of anything 'hitting' my airways. It was like vaping nothing... warm nothing...

I'll ' confess ' to having some 24mg that I do use on occasions djs . . . . couldn't use it solidly, like I do the lower strengths - but it has it's uses for me.

As always we're all different and it's whatever works for you.

[tim]

Apr 23, 2016 22:51:10 GMT Greg said:

I found small reductions is the best way to go, 1mg reduction a month worked for me and I've now been on zero for months and don't crave nic at all. My wife is also on zero nic and has been for months too although I only recently told her. Maybe it's all in the mind !

This is what I think. Induced by the very stuff we're talking about.

[lobeydosser]

If we all vaped the same strengths and/or reduced our nic 1mg at a time, then there wouldn't be all the different strengths available that are for sale up and down the country.

Many, including myself, have tried nicotine reduction and found it not for them.

I suppose, like most vapers, I came to vaping because I couldn't find a way of stopping smoking by any other means.
I also suppose that if reducing my nic level was ever going to work while vaping, it would have worked when I tried to stop smoking. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

But, one thing I did notice when reducing nic levels when smoking, when I went several months without a ciggy, I felt fine. Aye even once for 18 months!!!
But then something completely unexpected happened and the only thing I could think about was where to get a nicotine kick.
18 months without any and suddenly I would have killed anyone that stood between me and a fag.

Well done you if you have reduced your nic to nil, but, be ever vigilant. Nicotine is a very powerful and even more patient drug so don't be slapping yourself on the back, just yet.

[Greg]

Apr 23, 2016 23:53:21 GMT lobeydosser said:

If we all vaped the same strengths and/or reduced our nic 1mg at a time, then there wouldn't be all the different strengths available that are for sale up and down the country.

Many, including myself, have tried nicotine reduction and found it not for them.

I suppose, like most vapers, I came to vaping because I couldn't find a way of stopping smoking by any other means.
I also suppose that if reducing my nic level was ever going to work while vaping, it would have worked when I tried to stop smoking. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

But, one thing I did notice when reducing nic levels when smoking, when I went several months without a ciggy, I felt fine. Aye even once for 18 months!!!
But then something completely unexpected happened and the only thing I could think about was where to get a nicotine kick.
18 months without any and suddenly I would have killed anyone that stood between me and a fag.

Well done you if you have reduced your nic to nil, but, be ever vigilant. Nicotine is a very powerful and even more patient drug so don't be slapping yourself on the back, just yet.

There's some bold statements there but I guess I could make just as bold counter claims. I think just about everyone who came to vaping did so to quit smoking, I'm sure there are some exceptions but I've not heard of any.
The key for me was small reductions over a long time as that's only achieve able if you mix your own juice. Initial attempts to reduce with shop bought 4mg reductions didn't work at all, the changes too great.

I'd have thought it much more difficult to reduce nic as a smoker as your only real options are to keep changing brands, assuming you can get lots of different strength fags or reduce the number you smoke, with vaping you have far more flexibility in my view.

I do think it unlikely but in the event I was ever craving for nic the last thing I'd do now is reach for a fag, in fact I still have lots of ejuice at various strengths not to mention 3 litres of nic in the freezer. 

Regarding lots of of different strengths for sale up and down the country, let's not overlook one of those strengths is zero nic. For me and I suspect many others smoking was far more than a nicotine habit, it was a habit all of its own. The act of inhaling, the throat hit, the exhaling and the ritual timing of a smoke after a meal or whilst doing others things whilst reading a paper   were all the things you couldn't really replicate until vaping came along.

I do realise everyone's different and it may be that some can never quit nicotine but for those who haven't tried there's really nothing to lose, safe in the knowledge you can easily reverse any changes 

[Greg]

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[Bobsbeer]

I agree with you Greg. We have dropped slowly from 30mg when we started nearly 18 months ago, initially in the drops available in commercial juice, till we reached 12mg, then I started mixing our own and after that it was 2mg reductions, a couple of months apart. Then recently a 1mg drop from 4mg to 3mg. We will probably stay at that level for a few months, then drop 1mg again, to 2mg. Our original goal was 0mg nic by the 2 year point, and it looks as though we will miss that, but I don't really care. It has achieved it's main goal of getting us off tobacco, so a few extra months to get off nicotine is no big deal in the scheme of things. If it takes another year that's fine by me. We probably have about 5 years worth of nic stashed at 3mg rate, so quite what we will do with that once we get to zero I don't know.

[Pepperty]

I seem to be OK vaping any old thing! I'll buy my juice at either 6mg or 3mg, whatever is in stock

I DIY mix at somewhere around 5 to 3mg. I cant properly gauge as I make up a 6mg unflavoured bottle of 10pg 90vg mix and add that ready mixed base to my pg concentrate regardless of if percentage is 7% or 27%

Have just checked the nicotine content of one tank that I knew was high as I get a very peppery hit << Its 12 mg >> but in rotation with two others at 4mg or so, I'll get through it. I have cleared all my 18mg bar snake oil and spider venom as they are fine in a carto for a sneak vape

[lobeydosser]

I can only go on my own experience.

Initially I found that 24mg suited me and I was on that for about 18 months when I decided to try reducing the nic level.
I dropped it 2mg to 22mg and within a couple of days I was dreaming during the night that I was smoking again.
Within a week I was craving cigarettes.
As soon as I went back on the 24mg, all the dreams and cravings stopped.

Now I had the same reactions when I had previously tried to stop smoking.

Everyone is different and everyone will find their own way forward with vaping, but, for me, 24mg is just dandy and, hopefully the next time anyone sees me smoking, I will be halfway up the crematorium chimney.


One of the problems we see on here about folks who cut down their nicotine intake either to very low levels or even to nil levels, is the long term results of such "experiments".
Where are the No Nic MGers of a year down the line? How are they doing? Are they still No Nics? Are they back to their former Nic Levels? Was it worth the trying?
Until we know the overall results, speculation of what might be achieved is just that. Speculation!