Query about mods and safety precautions

[kurotoshiro]

Sometime this week, I should be getting my hands on a mini-argento. As a beginner, I want to make sure I'm aware of all the relevant safety considerations, now that I'm moving to more a powerful device. Don't really want to spray myself in molten battery juice, burn my house down, set fire to my pants, etc.

So ... I know I should get a case for the batteries and shouldn't carry them loose in pockets. I'll be sorting that out as soon as possible. But would anyone recommend that I get any additional safety gizmos or add-ons? For example, I've read a couple of things about 'hot springs' but I'm not entirely sure what they are, or whether they're a good idea. I also saw a device called a "vape safe" - again, I'm not sure what exactly it does or if it's a good idea.

Also, regarding batteries themselves: are all 18350 batteries pretty much equivalent, or can there be differences in quality / reliability / safety between different makes? (If so, which makes are better?)

Thanks for your help!

[OneDay]

Kuro, like all things in life there is safety and paranoia. The battery case is a sensible buy, and obviously dont chuck batteries in a dish of coins or whatever. But at the end of the day they're just batteries and we all go through thousands of them so enjoy your argento. The AW IMR batts are always quoted as the best, also Totally Wicked do a good 18350.

[maccafan]

A hotspring is merely a lower resistance spring which should:

1. Lower the resistance of the mod giving you better performance.

2. Stops rattling in the Argento because of better fit as it's slightly longer.

3. Should collapse in the event of a short.

I wouldn't recommend using IMR's in the Argento..

It would be safer to use a protected 18350 from AW, Senybor, Sanyo or Panasonic...

[Karma]

Protected 18350s in the Argento, that is what you'll get from Britvapes or these, designed by Trog for the SD

www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/electronic-cigarette-screwdriver/screwdriver-mkii-spare-battery-product.html

IMRs are more suited to the likes of Lava Tubes which have their own protection built in

Battery box = good idea

[kernowman]

Very good questions Kuro,and as expected some very good answers.As has been said before,that is the beauty of visiting a great forum like our own.

[kurotoshiro]

May 27, 2012 18:44:01 GMT Karma said:

Protected 18350s in the Argento, that is what you'll get from Britvapes

Is this definitely the case? The photo of the 18350 shown on the Britvapes site doesn't look like a protected one:

www.britvapes.co.uk/ULTRAFIRE_BATTERIES/p1204754_6370396.aspx

I've seen a variety of sources saying that the orange Ultrafire XSL 18350s are not protected. And that's what this photo looks like.

[blakey]

The specs for these batterys are here www.iaminthestore.com/2-pcs-of-ultrafire-xsl-18350-2-3-7v-1200mah-rechargeable-li-ion-battery
It would seem that they are protected but.......
As macca once said somewhere on here, I wouldn't trust any battery whos name ends in fire!

[Perpetua]

I've never understood them to be strictly ' protected ' to be honest . . .although the spec does say that they're protected against over charge/discharge. I guess it depends upon how sensibly they're used?

www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/105089/210862788-514853997/20pcs-lot-Brand-New-UltraFire-18350-3-7V-1200mAh-Unprotect-Batteries-Free-Shipping.html

[kurotoshiro]

Thanks Blakey, but I'm still unsure about this. If you'll take a few moments to indulge me, please check out this thread, 8th post onwards:

www.vapersforum.com/showthread.php?t=36555

Here's the website and product I think they're talking about:

www.electronicstix.com/MOD-BATTERIES-CHARGERS/BATTERIES-FOR-MODS/Ultrafire-XSL-18350-1200mAh-3-7V-PAIR-p401.html

Looks exactly the same as the product in the link you posted. So how do I tell whether it's protected or not?

I also checked out the Ultrafire website itself:

www.ultrafire.net/products.asp?enBigClassName=Battery&EnSmallClassName=Rechargeable

The ones they list as "protected" seem to have this written on the battery casing itself. The orange ones don't.

[EDIT] Should I get a hotspring just to be safe, given that the safety of these batteries is less than clear???

[Perpetua]

May 28, 2012 9:32:37 GMT kurotoshiro said:

[EDIT] Should I get a hotspring just to be safe, given that the safety of these batteries is less than clear???

I would, as it improves the performance considerably in anycase Kuroto.



* Blakey's PA. *

[blakey]

The hot spring would certainly provide a good amount of protection mate, it will collapse when it gets very hot thus breaking the contact with the mod, much the same as a fuse would. It really is all you need in an argento, anything else is really just overkill.

[blakey]

May 28, 2012 9:38:42 GMT Perpetua said:

May 28, 2012 9:32:37 GMT kurotoshiro said:

[EDIT] Should I get a hotspring just to be safe, given that the safety of these batteries is less than clear???

* Blakey's PA. *

Where's my coffee then? tut- some blooming assistant you are

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[Perpetua]

May 28, 2012 9:43:14 GMT blakey said:

Where's my coffee then? tut- some blooming assistant you are

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There you are Sir . . . with the wabbit face you insist on.

[Karma]

The batteries I got from Britvapes are blue and if you look closely at the bottom of them you can see the protection circuit (sp?)

[hifistud]

I can confirm those orange ***fire batteries are very definitely NOT protected.

May 28, 2012 9:32:37 GMT kurotoshiro said:

Thanks Blakey, but I'm still unsure about this. If you'll take a few moments to indulge me, please check out this thread, 8th post onwards:

www.vapersforum.com/showthread.php?t=36555

Here's the website and product I think they're talking about:

www.electronicstix.com/MOD-BATTERIES-CHARGERS/BATTERIES-FOR-MODS/Ultrafire-XSL-18350-1200mAh-3-7V-PAIR-p401.html

Looks exactly the same as the product in the link you posted. So how do I tell whether it's protected or not?

I also checked out the Ultrafire website itself:

www.ultrafire.net/products.asp?enBigClassName=Battery&EnSmallClassName=Rechargeable

The ones they list as "protected" seem to have this written on the battery casing itself. The orange ones don't.

[EDIT] Should I get a hotspring just to be safe, given that the safety of these batteries is less than clear???