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This effect you have noticed does sound very unusual, Sellaman. While I'd not be surprised if very occasionally someone might get a reaction to a particular component in a flavouring it seems a bit strange that ALL the ones you have tried have caused such a noticeable reaction for you. Are they tobacco types or fruit or whatever?

Are there any foods which just don't agree with you or that have caused a similar kind of response? So many modern foods (and drinks, for that matter) contain flavourings of various kinds that it's actually quite difficult to avoid exposure to them at some point or another.

Alternatively, and please forgive me if this sounds like a daft question, these ARE actual juices intended for vaping aren't they - not concentrates intended for dilution before use? Vaping a neat concentrate probably would be pretty unpleasant - some are so strong that only very small quantities are required, literally a few drops in a small bottle of e-liquid can sometimes be quite sufficient.

It could even be worth trying experimenting by adding a few drops of one of the flavoured juices to a couple of ml of your unflavoured PG/VG mixture if you have a small container handy you could use to do this, and see if this provoked the same reaction or not. This might establish if there's some kind of threshold level which triggers what you have been experiencing.

I'd have to say I'm honestly a bit skeptical that there is anything all that significantly different about organic flavourings compared to others in a chemical sense. Basically vanilla tastes of vanilla mostly because it contains vanillin... and vanilla producers even boast about how high the vanillin content is in their pods! I went and looked up Vaperite.com and was left wondering how the heck do you make an 'organic' waffle flavouring? Something like apple I can understand, but waffle...?

At the end of the day though, it is basically true that the effect of inhaling materials intended as food flavourings (which all of them are) over the long term is probably the biggest unknown with vaping. It is certainly one of the reasons why I take exception to anyone describing vaping as "safe", because no-one actually knows this. By contrast, the long-term effects of inhaling tobacco smoke are only too well known - and not good at all.

There's simply no way that vaping can possibly be worse than smoking, and the improvement I have experienced in my own breathing makes it entirely worthwhile for me. Nothing else ever kept me from smoking in over 30 years, despite being well aware of how damaging it was. No attempt I'd made to stop ever lasted more than a few days, to my considerable shame and frustration.

I really do hope it will be possible to work something out that will allow you to experience the benefits of vaping for yourself, Sellaman. Whether you choose to continue with it or not can then be your own choice - exactly as smoking is, theoretically!

Sending very powerful positive thoughts for Daisy, Bel.

Had cats all my life and they are so stoical about pain, sometimes you only discover they've been hurting after they have had something wrong for quite a while. At least in this case there was no doubt so she was whisked off to the vets straight away. Like everyone else, I am hoping she will recover as fast as feline-ly possible.

All best wishes to you both for tomorrow - everything crossed!

Nice one, Lee, well spotted. I do NOT have a GGTS but DO have quite a plentiful supply of these lighters. We used to get given them as freebies when we went over to Belgium in years gone by buying ciggies & baccy in vast amounts.

If any GGTS owners find themselves needing some of these but don't have any handy, drop me a PM, happy to send a couple to you (intact - you'll have to do the dismantling yourself). Will take me the rest of my life to use them all up lighting the occasional bonfire with 'em!

Just like to add my congrats and thanks to Chrissie and the other mods, too. Yes, it IS mainly the members who make the place and thanks to all who've made me grin or even laugh out loud, but if Chrissie hadn't originally started it and the mods didn't exercise their powers when needed to turf out spammers and the like it wouldn't be quite the same as it is.

There is one thing I still just don't get - what's with all the guests??? Earlier today: Number of users online: 5, number of guests: 50. We're heavily outnumbered here! Why don't they register and join in? ??? Come on guys, we don't bite! (Well, most of us don't, anyway...)

C'mon... out of that closet and introduce yourselves like civilised folks do... cootchy cootch

Sellaman, I was just thinking that with you being in Australia this does make liquid supplies a bit more problematic, as buying a few small sizes this week to try out then bigger ones of any you decide you like NEXT week isn't quite so simple for you as it is for all of us. For members who may not be aware, the situation as I understand it is that the Aussie govt. helpfully outlawed the sale of liquids containing nicotine but not the actual e-cig hardware. As a result, although you can buy the kit from a local vendor without any problem it is necessary to personally import any liquid you require containing nicotine from abroad, which IS legal as long as it is for your personal use.

As a result, I think I'd encourage you to stick to buying from liquid suppliers with a good reputation you have heard of as recommended through places like this. The last thing you need is to try and save some money by buying from somewhere cheap but with no 'track record' as it were, and then it either doesn't turn up or turns out to be truly ghastly. I definitely think there's a much better chance you will be able to reduce (or maybe even cut out) your analogue consumption with some nic in your liquid.

I did also want to echo Chrissie's advice, there's no need to be scared stiff of nic liquid. Unless you do something seriously foolish like getting it ALL over your hands then failing to wash it off it really isn't going to hurt you. If you wanted to use some disposable gloves to start with until you've gained a little confidence, these would keep you perfectly safe. The amount you might get on your skin from just handling cartridges or a dribble around the top of a bottle isn't going to be enough to cause you harm.

If you consider that you might possibly vape several ml during the course of a day once you get used to vaping, it may make more sense that a tiny smear on your skin isn't going to be dangerous to you. "18mg" equates to 1.8% nicotine so although really pure nicotine at 99%+ is lethally dangerous, the strength you will come across in most of the liquids you can buy simply isn't in the same league. Yes, DO treat it with respect and of course make sure children and animals can't get to it, but there's no need to be terrified of it.

I did also want to thank you for the link to your artwork in your signature! For anyone who hasn't followed this yet, there are DOZENS and DOZENS of images. It is a huge body of work which must cover many years. While I didn't fall in love with every single one (but found some absolutely captivating!) there's just so much variety that there's a good chance most people would enjoy some of them - I certainly did. Highly recommended, and thanks once again.

Much as I hate to contradict the mighty Grizwald, like so much else in life, it isn't quite as simple as that. Wintergreen for instance is basically a complete no-no. Full stop. Some others are also questionable and to be perfectly honest I'd recommend some study before you go leaping in.

Aside from the issue of oils and insolubility in water (which may not actually be a problem as water is not a primary constituent in eliquid) there is also the matter of sugar and artificial colouring being included in some of them.

One of the best resources I know is in ECF here: www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/74109-guide-diy-flavoring.html which is a huge great long thread but most of what you will be interested in about Lorann is right at the beginning along with links to further info resources.

Two of the most relevant to your concerns are www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/28975-lorann-flavors-color-coded-complete-ingredients-list.html and also www.exogenesis.co.uk/Loranne1.htm although the latter is now outdated as TW no longer sell Lorann - must confess I'd be interested to know why that is, too.

Perpetua - Having said all that, many of them are indeed absolutely fine to use and I can even point you towards another eBay seller which could be even cheaper cgi.ebay.co.uk/LorAnn-Hard-Candy-Flavoring-Oil-10-Ct-Assorted-Bottles-/110443991237?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19b6f990c5 if you are looking at quite a few different ones and aren't in a mad rush. These would work out at less than £1.50 a bottle.

I will be getting some from this seller myself shortly and would be happy to share an order between us if you wish and post them on to you. Drop me a PM if you would like to do that.