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Post by mybad on Jan 23, 2014 20:02:21 GMT
Very sneakily produced load of crap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 20:02:39 GMT
Sickened by it, totally disgusted.
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Post by Blownupdolly on Jan 23, 2014 20:03:04 GMT
This is awful. What a f**k up for us. Well done for a 'balanced' programme - not OIL in ecigs? jeez Yeah ... the 8 months that he had been vaping killed him, not the 30 odd years that he smoked 30 fags a day I said exactly the same when that bit came on!
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Post by lal on Jan 23, 2014 20:03:47 GMT
Well that was a bit of an anti climax.....
But someone really needs to tell that poor woman and her husband's consultant that there is no oil in e cigs
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Post by a1laserboy on Jan 23, 2014 20:03:48 GMT
The fact that it was linked to a condition where there is oil deposits in his lungs is what gets me. I guess he could have vapid something bad, all that time ago there will have been much less info on what we definitely should not be vaping, but to publish that and not balance it with some kind of research as to what is in most, if not all juice is ver very wrong. Now people will think its oil and unsafe for the user and bystanders.
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Post by tracerace1 on Jan 23, 2014 20:04:11 GMT
the ffffffff*******ing eu and them arse sucking doctors don't give a Hoot about us1 the mp's, meps and eu commission will just do as they please..... IE IMPOSE UNEEDED REGS whether we like it or not. THEY do not give a spit about anyones rights or health, they'll have them taxes whatever and whichever way they can.....
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Post by barrynorton on Jan 23, 2014 20:04:48 GMT
Glycerol, glycero-lipids, oils - that's just two small jumps to make... if you're completely ******* untrained in organic chemistry!
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Post by deesigner on Jan 23, 2014 20:04:49 GMT
Why do they insist on saying there's been no reasearch!!!! Drives me nuts, they could actually do their homework and find what research has been done! I'd also like to know what oils people seem to think they are using! FGS! The amount of time I spend tellling people not to buy anything that's oil based, I've even spoken to someone who owns a vape stall who insists on calling the liquid vaping oil! In the main the programme was quite well done, I recognised Cliff too I can see a massive influx of people searching for information too, especially as they've shown that there's not only elites and similar on the market.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 20:05:28 GMT
Yeah ... the 8 months that he had been vaping killed him, not the 30 odd years that he smoked 30 fags a day I said exactly the same when that bit came on! And me. And using the emotional slant of the youth vaping when they smoke anyway
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 20:07:21 GMT
Yeah ... the 8 months that he had been vaping killed him, not the 30 odd years that he smoked 30 fags a day I said exactly the same when that bit came on! Hopefully, so did half the nation if they had any sense.
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Post by Pezz on Jan 23, 2014 20:08:05 GMT
Very hit and miss.
They must have searched high and low to find the report for the poor man who smoked for thirty years and then died of cancer.
Trying to see the good is really tough when they inevitably sensationalized the appealing to children, the stupid advert and the nobody really knows story.
And what about that vendor claiming all those health benefits! Bet he is going to have a few angry customers.
Can't say I'm surprised with it.
Can only hope it is the start of mainstream coverage.
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Post by ionian on Jan 23, 2014 20:08:12 GMT
Hmmm. I like to keep a balanced mind on this issue, try to see things from all points of view, and I know the programme wasn't likely to present ecigs in a positive fashion, but that was terrible tv.
I feel awful for the woman who lost her husband, but including that segment with no evidence whatsoever was just scaremongering, and bush league journalism.
I should state that I share concerns about ecig advertising, and would welcome sensible regulation, especially including bans on sales to minors, but I can't see what purpose the programme served. It wasn't particularly informative, asked a load of questions without attempting to find answers for its viewers, and painted a bleak picture overall. I'm pretty frustrated.
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Post by Fockskey on Jan 23, 2014 20:09:07 GMT
Several countries have banned e cigarettes, yes and most of them have a vested interest in tobacco production. The program ended on a more positive note though, a positive way out of smoking. That will be our biggest weapon.
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Post by Blownupdolly on Jan 23, 2014 20:09:30 GMT
And where did they get the daft bint tucking the bunk beds in leading off about her children having to listen to adverts on the radio? Very offended by them, theni bet she lets them listen to Mylie Cyrus songs and videos
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Post by Karma on Jan 23, 2014 20:11:55 GMT
Yep, I was annoyed about the 'oil' reference too I suppose on the whole it was balanced, but I'm not impressed. Of all the vendors he could have interviewed, he interviewed one that has been in the business 6 months ??? He found one death that just might be to do with inhaling oils ??? No mention that there are no oils or at least should not be and no mention of what is in e-liquid The only bit that I found totally unbiased was the guy from Cancer Research at the end that said e-cigs had to be at least 100 times safer than smoking tobacco
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