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Hi Lolli,

I'm one of the newbies, I guess you may have seen some of my posts.

Anyway - I am sure the vet told you, and just checking, that you have to massage their "bottom ends" after feeding? To make them pee and poo? I only say this because my sister had some kittens that the mother totally ignored, and she had to raise by hand. But didn't get any advice and didn't know to do this. If she had only asked me.......
Her kittens unfortunately died as they were not getting rid of waste.

Good luck! Keep us posted on progress.

Kath
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Talking about atties, I said a week or so ago, that I cahnged to one of the ones I bought from TW, a five pack of 510's. I hate the bloody things! The ones that came with the Riva are/were fine. But I've had terrible problems with the TW ones. The gunk they put on them tastes like nothing on earth and puts me off vaping. Yesterday evening I was nearly ready for throwing the whole thing in the bin!

I blew the last attie out, there is so much stuff in there, but no matter what I did, I couldn't get enough vapour, taste or hit. I flooded the darn things, then had them too dry.....it just went on and on. I swapped carts, but clean fluval in, put blue stuff in, swapped atties, etc.

It pains me to say it but I had 3 normal cigs. (Over the course of the evening, and would have been more like 20 in the old days.)

The atties with the Riva are normal ones, the TW are normal. My order from Eastmall is for LR ones. I really think I need these, because of how much I used to smoke and the hit I need.

The other weird thing is that anything I had past my lips last night tasted awful and weird and my mouth had an awful taste in it. Whatever the gunk is, didn't agree with me, and left I couldn't even taste the normal cigs. Whether it's my taste buds changing or the gunk ( I go for the gunk) I don't really know.

My vaping is back to normal today, so sleeping and leaving my mouth alone seems to have helped.

I get really frustrated when it's not going right. I have so many carts and atties next to me on a piece of kitchen roll, I don't know where I am, which is an old attie, which is new....

I think I worked out how to tell when they die though....it's an awful burnt taste?

I got even more frustrated when my mouse (I use a Logitech Trackball big thing) died and I couldn't do anything properly, hence no postings yesterday! Then I tried to get onto Eastmall website and couldn't, the site didn't exist. I was thinking they'd buggered off with all our money! I ended up watching TV and .

Seems Estmall was down for a re-design. My new replacement mouse arrived, and I'm vaping away!

Phew!

Kath

Judy,

Yes, I was expecting a big coughing fit every day, and gunge to come up but nothing has. Like you, I am not coughing in the morning when I wake up either. What's that all about? I feel loads better in myself.

I've still to take the leap of vaping in places where smoking is banned, other than my own office where there is no-one else most of the time, and as I'm the boss, no one to tell me not to! Having said that, I've not really been anywhere yet. We're not pub goers, and tend to hibernate at home all the time. We did have the holiday in a non-smoking caravan, but again no one to say we couldn't vape. So looking forward to flying Ryanair in September and vaping to my hearts content. I am also going to vape in the airport, especially when you have that long wait after going through security. Bring it on!

Kath

Hanow,

They work.....after an age. That horrible gunk (Chrissie said primer) is atrocious. Like vaping castor oil. I blew through the hole onto kitchen paper with the last one and loads came out but you can still taste it. So I dripped and burnt it off, then just kept persevering, but didn't have such a good vape last night. Put one of the old ones back, in desperation, and got that working again. I'm not even sure when they are "dead". I presume when nothing happens? This morning, the new attie was OK, and I have been using it all day. I guess leaving it overnight gets the preferred juice to soak in?

I've got about 5 atties on the go, two of which are LR but I'm pretty sure one is dead. The only thing is, I am loathe to throw any of them away, just in case they "spring into life"! How do I know they are useless?

Kath

My first one was faulty. The second one is working alright.

Hopefully, nobody in their right mind would bother ordering anything from one of those magazine inserts. It's all carp, for a lot of money. Long handled toe-nail clippers, two feet in one foot muff (so you have to hop!?) Nose hair cutters. CD Flipper gadget. And so on....

I, too, am doing all I can to promote it. I've sent my two smoking sisters lots of info from this board, copied and pasted, together with pics of the Riva etc.. One is going to persue it further when I visit in September when her daughter (my niece) gets married as she wants to see it in action first and have a suck!! The other one should have received her bumpf today.

I did mention it on the eBay techie board the other day.

Sort of on the same subject - has anybody ever met anybody else who vapes? Anywhere? While out an about? I haven't. Just saying, because I don't think too many folks know about it still.

Kath