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My brother phoned me to tell me about this supplement, I rarely hear from him, so that in itself made it welcome.

It is such a good thing for the e cig industry, to raise awareness, as currently there is alot of misunderstandings by non vapers about what it is all about. I think it is really good news that The Times included such a supplement.

Well I can get the coffee, chocolate digestives and RY4 part of your heaven!

i would have to switch the tv channel to make it my heaven

hence why having the house to yourself is also in ur list i guess....

It is an interesting subject, I am not sure if there is a list, so here is my 2pence worth.

I have been vaping for 2 years and I get through around 5ml e liquid a day. So I would imagine over that time if there were any immediate health effects I would have noticed. I vape using PG based e liquid and from what I have read and experienced, unless you have some unusual reaction and sensitivity to PG, it is pretty harmless.

I remember some time back when people were saying that PG was antifreeze and people were imagining that vapers were inhaling the same stuff put into cars, however that is misleading as the antifreeze used in cars is ethylene glycol, highly toxic. Propylene glycol on the other hand, has some anti freezing properties and so is used in any application that has the potential for ingestion, such as water pipes, and othe food manufacturing equipment that needs to be stopped from freezzing up.

Another factoid about propylene glycol is that it is fed to calves, to fatten them up. That indicates just how non toxic PG is.

The biggest unknown in terms of health risks, is flavourings really. usually about 10% of an e liquid is flavouring, but a good percentage of the flavouring is again PG. It is best to go with water soluble flavourings , not just for the sake of your attie, but also as anything water soluble is easier for the body to break down and get rid of. In general if a flavouring is food grade certified, it is likely to be harmless, but there have not been tests done on the effects of inhalation of flavourings, although as many years have passed with people vaping this stuff, I am yet to hear of anyone who has had health problems associated with it and if inhaling flavourings were harmful, then chefs the world over, stuck in a kitchen breathing in the smells of cooking all day, would probably have noticed.

Nioctine of course is well documented, a toxin, but not proved to be cancerous as things currently stand. It really is in quite minute quantities in e liquid. The e liquid labels sound scary, as to be CHIP compliant they have to have certain text related to neat nicotine. E Liquid can contain nicotine, however it is in a very very dilute form, and the diluent it is mixed with makes it much less readily absorbed through the skin, so the dangers are relative to the dilution.

Consider that a medium strength e liquid may have 18mg of nicotine per ml of liquid. There are 1000mg in a ml. So it is a very small quantity of just 1.8% nicotine. I am reminded of homeopathy, where all kinds of substances, including ones that are highly toxic in their non diluted form, including arsenic for example, are used for health benefits, in their very dilute form. I am not personally into homeopathy, nor do i know much about it, I am just reminded of it and know that that is how it is supposed to work.

I would never recommend someone who had never smoked, to take up vaping, but for tobacco smokers, I can only see health benefits in the switch to vaping. I know that as an ex smoker my health has improved so so much over the last 2 years.

I would be really interested to hear what you have read in terms of health risks assocaited with vaping....

Thanks very much for the advice, sounds like I need some riva batteries with some vision carts

Sounds like it will make my life easier, save time and not having to be switching batteries and dripping in e liquid so much.

I am glad I asked here!

I quite like the look of the Vision on vape escape, am I right in thinking that there is no lint in the clearomiser, the part that contains the e liquid? You just drip the e liquid straight into it. It holds 5 times more than my current e cig which would be nice and I find the lint in my current cartridge a bit tricky as it is slow to refill waiting for the juice to absorb. I always have to cut the lint in half anyway, as I find if it is the full size, it is almost impossible to refill without removing it and getting messy.

Has anyone got one of these Visions? It says the battery life is 8-10 hours, is that realistic.

You probably mean that woozy high feeling that you get when you havent had a tobacco cig for a while and then have one, rather than the nausea part right!

I had actually forgotten about that, that must be some of the other 4000 chemicals in tobacco smoke that does that, although I cant be sure because I dont think I have ever gone without a vape for long enough to know what it would feel like to have some after an abstinence.