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Post by gaura on Aug 7, 2013 21:55:10 GMT
I seriously do not think (or at least can not believe that) these proposals will ever pass into law, as they are way out of proportion to what is required to regulate the industry. Taking a sledge hammer to crack a nut is how it appears. Surely common sense at some point will prevail amongst those proposing such things...unless they have ulterior motives, which is a whole other kettle of fish. However even if they do, they still have to get their proposals agreed to by a majority of unbias persons, as far as I am aware.
It is interesting that despite all the worries and concerns over the dangers of ecigs that their proposals are based on, over the past 7 years, if they were as risky as is being considered, then we would have heard of a few problems by now. As far as I am aware, there have been no reports of people overdosing on nicotine due to either bad mixing or a faulty ecig.
If it aint broke...why fix it...
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Post by gaura on Jul 30, 2013 18:32:26 GMT
If I tell you that I was born in the year that 5 pence coins were introduced to replace the shilling...I sound really old.
If I tell you that I am the same age as Kylie Minogue....it doesnt sound so bad
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Post by gaura on Jul 30, 2013 18:01:06 GMT
If you dont have enough room in the freezer....
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Post by gaura on Jul 28, 2013 21:24:13 GMT
No way, I wouldnt want to be young again, all that angst and turmoil. I wouldnt mind if the effects of gravity on my face and body being reversed though.
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Post by gaura on Jul 20, 2013 21:46:09 GMT
But, what is in the foul tasting NRT Inhalator, whose name suggests it should be inhaled? The inhalator appears to only contain nicotine and menthol, that is all that is mentioned on the pack. There is no throat hit though. There is 15mg of nicotine held in a porous plug in the cartridge. No fancy mechanism, you simply inhale the fumes from that. But its odd because it is definitely the nicotine in e cig vapour that gives the throat hit, as no nicotine e liquid has no throat hit. They recommend sucking on it for periods of 10 mins at a time. Each 15mg cartridge lasts 40 mins of inhaling. The nicotine is absorbed thorugh the lining of the mouth, so i guess it is tiny droplets being sucked in, that never reach the back of the throat at all. Whereas the ecig vapour disperses the nicotine enough within the vapour, to be able to reach the back of the throat when inhaled.
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Post by gaura on Jul 20, 2013 21:31:18 GMT
Whilst I agree with you entirely, I have some quick mist and it's not supposed to be inhaled, just sprayed into the mouth. Ah, maybe thats why my throat is burning! (just kidding, I didnt really )
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Post by gaura on Jul 20, 2013 20:56:18 GMT
I was looking at the ingredients in a well known brand of NRT, that make a quick mist NRT spray.
It surprised me in fact, but also seems to demonstrate that e cig vapour may be less worrying to inhale than even the current NRT on the market.
Here is a list of ingredients in each....i know which one i would prefer to inhale
NRT Spray Propylene Glycol Anhydrous Ethanol Trometamol Poloxamer 407 Glycerol Sodium Hydrogen Carbonate Levomenthol Flavours Sucralose Acesulfame Potassium Hydrochloric Acid Water Nicotine
E Liquid Propylene glycol Glycerine Water Flavour Nicotine
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Post by gaura on Jul 17, 2013 15:44:07 GMT
They are people, and people in general do what they can get away with and will be selfish if they can get away with it....ooo i am feeling cynical today...its been a tough one...tomorrow i will probably like people again...but today people are in my bad books. Maybe the Chinese could build an electronic MP, it would probably be better than the real thing.
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Post by gaura on Jul 10, 2013 17:05:27 GMT
The EU legal committee voted against the legislation on the basis that it would be illegal. The comment made by Sir Francis Jacob QC, former Advocate-General to the European Court of Justice, was that the proposed ban was "an unreasonable measure which is liable to be annulled as being contrary to the principle of proportionality and/or the principle of non-discrimination. "
this prinicipal of proportionality...it is like taking a sledge hammer to crack an egg type scenario. My brother (he studied eu law, so i asked him about this) says this is the important point, that the legislation is going too far by effectively removing all ecigs off the market, that is contrary to the principle of proportionality, this is what would be illegal about the legislation.
That the EU legal committee voted against the legislation is good news at least.
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Post by gaura on Jul 9, 2013 18:58:44 GMT
they won't debate the facts about ecigs vs smoking because they know they can't win when they do! You are right, thats a really good point. The comment about e cigs re-normalising tobacco smoking, really bugs me. It is getting rid of ecigs that will normalise tobacco smoking, not the other way round, as there will be no alternative. I would like to see the normalising of a healthier alternative to tobacco smoking. Their comment about normalising tobacco smoking, is totally topsy turvy and applies more to their attempts to get rid of any sensible alternatives, than the other way around. That is what really normalises tobacco smoking...having no effective alternative.
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Post by gaura on Jul 4, 2013 19:19:36 GMT
hi guys, a while ago I changed from pg mix I bought from the shops to vg, I was getting bit of a bad chest well I would say a sort of catching my breath feeling, so went to paradise vape and he advised me to try the all vg mix, Something else you could try is unflavoured e liquid, you have already tried switching from PG to AG, if you think you may be sensitive to an ingredient in e liquid, then to continue with the process of elimination, it may be worth trying e liquid minus the flavour concentrate, just to see if that helps. Its actually (imo) just as satisfying and has an added bonus of being the kindest to your atomiser, making it last for ages.
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Post by gaura on Jun 24, 2013 19:41:44 GMT
I noticed with interest in the MHRAs documentation about the decision, they showed parties who had registered view and suggestions for various courses of action. Most interested parties were suggesting some kind of regulation, however Imperial Tobacco registered a suggestion to totally ban ecigs, an outright ban and for all products to be taken off the shelves immediately. Imperial Tobacco are the makers of Golden Virginia...obviously their view is based on a deep concern for the nations health (NOT!)
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Post by gaura on Jun 24, 2013 19:25:53 GMT
I just read the article...it is annoying some of the nonsense that people who are quoted as being knowledgable say in such articles. For example, Sheila Duff the Chief Executive of ASH is quoted as saying that "smokers will simply swap one addiction for another — albeit a “safer” one."
I am pretty sick of the hypocrisy that the anti vapers demonstrate. Whilst they like to use inflammatory terms with negative connotations when speaking of vapers habits, I wonder how they would feel were we to describe their morning coffees as addictions and suggest that their cups of tea should be medically assessed and regulated, to ensure that their blood concentrations of caffeine werent being over done, suggesting that they were too stupid to regulate their own consumption.
I am all for people being healthy and clean living, but I want the choice and unless the government pull tobacco off the shelves, then everything being planned for ecigs is just pure hypocrisy. All these lies about caring about the countries health, the MRHA being involved, if these anti vapers care so much and that is the reason they claim they are taking action to curb e cigs, then why are tobacco cigarettes still on the shelves? It is clear hypocrisy.
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Post by gaura on Nov 28, 2012 11:37:22 GMT
E Liquid Labs has a new RY4 tobacco flavour in. It is replacing the tobacco original flavour that was previously offered and is proving popular in the office. A smooth and mellow tobacco flavour with very subtle caramel and vanilla notes, it is my current all day vape! >> RY4 Tobacco E Liquid <<Also available as a flavour concentrate for DIYers. >> RY4 Tobacco Flavour Concentrate <<
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Post by gaura on Aug 25, 2012 11:30:02 GMT
Nicotine causes blood vessels to constrict, more so in some people than others. This can lead to raised blood pressure, and cause headaches in those particularly sensitive. They are called vascular headaches I would advise that you have your blood pressure checked by your GP, and to continue to use low strength e liquid. Caffeine also has the same vascular constriction effect. Interestingly though, nicotine and caffeine are also sometimes used to treat headaches, as headaches can also be caused by blood vessels expanding too much, so nicotine/caffeine are sometimes prescribed to constrict the vessels, and get rid of a headache. Obviously there is a fine balance and it will be very individual and dependant on how your own body is working at any given time. Anyone who has ever gone cold turkey from coffee probably has experienced the horrible headaches that occur for some days as the blood vessels dilate. Yet similarly when blood vessels constrict and get too narrow, headaches can also be caused. Wishing u well
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